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Episode 10 · 11 months ago

Goat Talk Podcast 010 | Chivas, Villalpando, Liga MX Playoffs, LA Galaxy, MLS, NBA, Canelo Alvarez

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In episode 010 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss Chivas firing Dieter Villalpando, Chofis Lopez, Gallito Vazquez, and Alexis Peña, the Liga MX repechaje and playoffs, LA Galaxy missing the playoffs, the MLS, the next NBA season and free agency, and Saul Canelo Alvarez becoming a free agent after cutting ties with DAZN and Golden Boy Promotions.

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Welcome everybody welcome back. This isepisode, ten of Goat Talk and I'm here with Alonzo Frius, and for this week wedon't have our cohost Adagour Pedea, but we're joined with Ov Yoomaginya,and for this week I believe we have some really good topic, something thatwe've talked about a lot in the past few weeks. I talked a lot about withEdegor about how Chewas is always in the news for something bad like it wasa joke. WHE would always make. Is Like Oh, what happened this week. WHATLhappened this week. Well happened this week. It was the whole Lexis Bega Poem,Yeah, O now that we talked about a couple weeks ago, and then this week itDus Ias so unfortunate. What happened to it honestly, it topped it all sothis week and something I don't know to me, I'm still like. I can't processing that yeah, becauseall right so to break it down, four players were taken off the rosterand so the first, the worst one, which is the Theto, be Albando he's beeinllabuse on some. First People were saying how it was like a minor. I don't knowif you read that, but then it turned out that she's, actually twenty one now obviou, I don't know it's all mediamanipulation, but whatever I mean getting accused, though that's it.That's like bad, especially as a soccer player and that's like they're stillgoing through litigation, but che was already said: He's not they're notgoing to support him through any of it. They just yet ies completely and thenthe other three plan. All of this happened at a party to so that'ssomething that they had been restricted from going to because of coid rightyeah as a because of covid because of all the stuff that had happened in thepast few weeks, and then there was also three players who were there with them?Not the same party correct at the same party yeah to Oh, my gosh so was AlexySpanyahoo I mean doesn't really I mean it sounds fucked up. I mean I don'treally care. He never even played a single minute in the league, yeah Y andthen Gatyeto, which is kind of hharding to he was a starter.In the past few weeks he had gained like trust within the coach with yeah,and he was starting over with Dran, which is ediger's favorite player, buthe was getting back on form like n yeah at the wrong time yeah and it justhappened, and this especially since I feel like it all happened. Because do youremember when Chiwas had sold him and everybody, including me, everybody wassaying like Damn Whyd, you say: Yeah Yeah, I remember you was devastated toyour like Browe Sol fucking Guy Yeto, like like he was like one of the bestCDMs in the league like in Mexico like He. He was yeah, WT, O the World Cup intwo thousand and fourteen exactly Ha. He was yeah, he was top CDM and thenthe thing too, with the most famous, Jo Jofys Ois, alsocame to Mesy on and that's what I feel like he never like what a tragic endingI feel like yeah, I. What I feel like would be the ending to his probablyprofessional career. I see it think so you think that bad I mean, I see ithard for a team picking thim up like maybe giving them a shot, is not out ofthe picture but like to be on the team rocking number ten like on, like a big team like tvas like that,was like the biggest opportunity you can get. I agree and then having thathappen, and you don't take advantage of he's fucked up. This wasn't the firsttime he fucked up yeah and then thetir. The thing with chefes do he's had a lotof different palems before like there was one season where he came intotraining, overweight and he was yeah in the team, and then there was anotherinstance where he was seein like at a party with different obscene patureswith women, and then he had to like ask the media not to post them. There'sbeen like a lot of stuff, and especially just his main thing was justnever living up to the hipe like he's exactly mumbered for one or two games,and then t e thing and then look Col. this, the ending bending is sad becausehe just never lived up to the hype. Exactly thet I mean yeah, maybe you'R,putting on the name messy canno. You know that shit was never really, like I mean. Did people believe that didpeople think Ho would be that good. I mean I don't know like they. Probablyjust you know the media. Mexico likes Te, just you know in Flaros Fallois,but I don't know, maybe if that got to hishead, where he thought like. Oh, like yeah, like I made it like, you know themedia things of me like as a like the next messy when, like reality like he,was having, he was struggling like even trying to get into the starting eleven.You know yeah and that's especially this season. He wasn't playing as muchas he would hope to, but that's happened in Thi past, like ten seasons,but then something else I wanted to point out to was how all right these three players-Alexi Spania, Gayito and cophies. They can actually make money off of them. Sothey're going to be placed on the TRASFOR list, but ye UNDL. Theycompletely just terminated his contract. They want nothing to do with him. Hewoul just cut from the team and that's...

...crazy too, because they paid fourmillion for him and never via Bundo, Orvia, Pando and now they're, not evengoing to negotiate with him theyre just cuting from the team, so they're notgoing to make any trying to make profit or even I don't even think profit.Nobody would pay that much for him and I yeah this market with the whole covidsituation, how all the players prices, wener value, yeah their value went down,and I mean he only had to assist this whole season and it's just crazy. Likethere Yo lost he tremendous amount of money. But do you think it was theright choice? Do you think they should have just cut him like that or try Omean? I would say yes because you don't wantto taink something big like that. With on your club, like, we saw the samething with Blu America, when I believe it was Zivara who got arrested fordomestic violence and they were quick to like say now- he's not no longerpart of our team and they, I believe either they they let him go or theytraded him away to Akla School was the only team I think besides supposedlyLon, but I don't think no yeah but like whwho actually wanted to takehem in, because you know I gess, they need Ean, probably desperate for aplayer player, especially of his with his name yeah, but, like you saw howquick a medica was to take action. So I was not surprised that shewas would gofurther and also take that similar action like that, because of how how big of an accusation that is islike it's not just al. He got in a fight with some dudes. Not Do that'slike rap right worst. That's like sexual abuse, sexual sous. What he's mesexual sal? is He that's exactly that's just and especially on a club like Chas.Yes, like you can have that and that's what I feel like it took for them tomake that decision, because I feel like am Mati Bud gotta after I'm an hisfather, sadly passed away the xgs Co I feel like he was so his dad's name hewants to like CLN. He wants to have a clean image of the team yeah. I takethat decision to say, Hey, look us we're going to tolerate nothing. Afterall, the things we've gone through and we want to just like have a clean club, a clean squad. We want tohave players in the national team we yeah. Have we just don't want to beknown for stuff like this, and even though it's happened in the past fewweeks in the past months, like we don't want to have that yeah exact it's and it's sad, becausethe squad has so much potential, but they have all these outside of likesoccer things that are getting in the way of this club like going forward.You know yeah, and it's something that I always stress about is like. Why doplayers ther all like it's? It's the soccer, the professional soccer careeris so short, like you only have a career, a successful career if thet fora certain amount of time and don't like don't go out and drink or don't go out,especially when they have these certain regulations placed forth for youexactly, especially if you're, not even in the good like yeah they madeplayoffs, which we're going to get into in a little bit but like they didn'tthey're, not playing the soccer that she wasn't known for, and I mean a lookat other players in the past like look at Gouly Pane. Where did he end up likea party player exactly wholys pen year, her he's playing in that whole day, Yoseen that he's playing in that new talonpere and Theleaueah, and that'slike ifucking beach soccer. I don't evenknow what the hell that is, O it's like the like. It's like the fourth division.Basically like it's, not even a filiated, it's not! I don't know it'scrazy. It looks like Sunday Leagues to me, though, from the videos I've seenYe. Basically, that's what it seemd is. Just they have some famous players and then like players like that andthen Jo Malik, who Oh yeah, which was Jo Molice Wa supposed to be like thenext, like big player, come out of Mexico and he tragically, he was drunkdriving and killed. Two people yeah anserving in prison, and he was playingin Europe which is crazy agan. He was Onlon in Spain right. I think it was inSpain Porto he was in Oforido Forto K and like his careers. Also it's theyher santhos terminated his contract right, rominated, his contract inMexico, yeah o there's like no ties to him. So I feel like these players needto reflect and see what happens to them. No yeah they. It's because I feel likethe fame gets their head and they go away from their actual Posi likeprofession and just start partying too much yeah and they think, like I lookat all this money, I'm making, like I mean yeah have fun, I mean you can alsohave a life like, of course, but then you also have to watch what you do orwhat you can like. The people you're surrounded with because M an I'm, notsaying Al Right, don't party at all like just dedicate yeah, plete life and especially since, if you're playingon a big club like Tbas yeah media, is always going to be having their eyes ona team like that and their players, and just without just you know, carelesslygoing to put all this mother and getting attention like that is also notlike smart and responsible from their...

...part yeah and that's actually, what hao Ga Yarto the left back for Monteray who's also a place from Mexol Nashnlim.He said that he said that players in the Mexican league and just any anyprofessional player they have the Ront. They have the responsibility of beingon TV and so kids view them as role models. So they always exactly watchwhat they're doing and that's some that's coming from like how many yearsin a row has guate been caught up to Nexto National Sy, like he's been calldconsistently, his game is came up so I's coming from him and then alsoRammon Moalis. I don't know if you' seen on twitter somebody sayng a Mexinlegend. He replied with clapping emotees when Ifer, when they de theplayers are going to be separated and cut from the team yeah see. So heacknowledged that it was en on that's coming frommon. What I that's like teLegend that he was all he yeah ans creer. He was really good. I don'tcrack and that's like I don't know I mean she was, has always been known. Imean there was at one time when Omarrabo and Agato Melina. This is likeyears a years yeah they got caught being drunk at a club and then for thethe official picture of the team. Buti gotta made them take the picture on topof the goal post yeah like symbolize that they were like drunk, so I feellike they've advanced as a team in terms of how to like portray it because,like with them, they kind of made like a joke out of it in some way. Yeah Y.But then now, like, I don't know they're making moves, but I mean I don't think I feel like they did. Theright choice and same yeah same I don't know itsjust another, just another, two of US another t story yeah and going in youthink the how about Alght, so they they're no longer part of the team. Doyou think that that would affect t US chances going forwr now into an Alega,maces, playoffs or Nepi chacket right now, yeah, so they're going up againstNek AXA, which they be in the regular season? They be them two to one. Idon't feel like it affects hem. That much because I mean I feel like allright number one Alexti spane no doesn't even count. He would never evenyeah. He was a Nevero rester got yo though I feel like it does somewhat a little bit. I mean betronand Molina. I believe have that position covered same thing with choffes. He didn't. Even hedoesn't make a difference. He never did. He was ever going to any time soon and then viabando. He would I like how he playedsometimes, but he wasn't consistent, especially wit yeah Yo for, andespecially I don't know if you remember how he would playn I he came from nic,Axa and yeah. That's how we became like not. He got it, yeah, that's where hegot. I you know his his start. You know like there got thet tention from Chather right yeah, so I feel like not not really. I mean, I think they Ithink they advanced. I think they beat nic, Axa actually and both legs. Youthink I think they ad to make it to the, but I don't know if trough I don't knowif they're going to be any of the top four teams. Okay, so but you do thinkthat they do make it past Tis, repid, Chackat yeah. I think theyve been a AEand then looking onto the other reper Chacke Games, we have MONTERE BLA. WhoDo you think comes ou on top from that match, I think Montere yeah no brainerthere. You know we got, I mean let Ontea Santaer Menu hes had a reallygood season, but I think won. Theday, they have a lot of good players andthey started. You know picking up where they kind of left off last season. Ittook them a while yeah. I didn't expect them to be this low onthe table. Basa O! Well, they play last season yeah I but I get. I don't knowthey had. The champions hang over. You know where they kind of laged it frombit, but I do think I do think they alsoLhiye come out on top Ersus Pola and then we got ta Takit as Toluka. I feellike that's going to be a good matchup. I think that's WAE being real. I feellike that's the closest game out of the four REPECHAA Games. Yeah I do too. Istill thin. I think you think Eis. I think ated yeah, okay, I o ' know manits just that team that every year do like they're like stacked and yea yeah.You can act e Ha, it's a that's a reliable Gol Score. You know, he' begany team, would would fucking be desperate to have have a player andsomething about this Toka team. They always find a way to switch iunder inthe playoffs yeah hyeah. They might bea well with pressure. They do will wom,but dogod knows how to move his team around in the pressure and they'veit'ssucceeded for the past few seasons, because they've always made it madedeep playoff runs yeah. I agree. Sadly, tougt no othe WAE Gos he's oonseen gono still but yeah. I he was a good player, but I feel like e neededto get rid of a couple players becaus.

They they had a lot yeah. They have too many. I still Idon't know I kind of wish he'd at least finished the season I feel like he wasa strong super subvyou. As you would say, you know he's someone that youcould rely on from coming off the bench, but I don't know how they toughthing.They just felt that his time was. U. You know what I mean yeah T, because hewas on there for a couple years and I feel like H, yeah he like when he firstgot sine. I remember how big that was first, since he was coming like fromEurope yeah and how everybody like it was like a big deal, because that'swhen to run the time where Datas as taking all these, like really bigsignings, but I feel like also them having Lo for nonthis. Oh Yeah. Theyhave an lakl from loan and also like Nicolopis. I feel like they overtookall that playing time from from Ete WAGAS FOM yother water, guysyeah yeah. So I think I think Datas, but I mean even when they playe on theregular season. It was three O two. They had a close game to look at one,but I feel like it's playoffs s. You can turn O Yeaore Gonno turn thatswitch on different ball game and then the last PPROTECTI game. We have is Santos Patuka. Who Do you think comes out from there?I actually think BA cokven came out lower on the in theregular season. I think they beat Santhos. I think if they I feel like soone of the players also bigtorusman, who didn't play the whole season. OhYeah Ole back and I feel like they just also have really good squad depths, andI don't know I don't really trust Santes because Samtos they lost to likeall the big teams like they lost a lay on they lost cause. I swhool they lasto America, so yeah in the playoffs. I don't know, I think they're going tocrumble, yeah or yeahit that it'll be it'll, be a close game, as in terms ofyou know, who's better from you would say, like the worst teams. I I want to say Santhos, but I kind offeel Batuka, because the same thing I feel like Bu, two guys more complete,they're, probably not wraw, but they're. More complete of a Tayo have like likesolid players like Boritonandiz yeah, like he's not raw, but he's like solidhe's like good enough to help you win yeah exactly and then it's crazy to seehow I feel, like a lot of people also didn't know like the format they'reusing this year, so yeah yeah, I don't know like this season. Twelve teamsmade playoffs instead of eight and then the bottom. Only the top four wentstraight to playoffs and then the bottom was going to play Tu Piahe,which hasn't been seen in years. So I feel like that also ay e. It was like amoney grab because I mean they even said as 't io rcover money so havingmore playoff games, meeds, more television rights, more everything, even though they donemore ads, more money yeah and though they were trying to have people at thestadium, which I don't think is going to happen anymore, but they were stillgoing to have. I mean that television audience is going to help a lot yeahNALL, that money lost from last season. That did it end up getting finishedyeah and it's interesting when they announced t at it was a twelve twelveteam playoff in a sense, because I I see like the four teams kind of likehow in thnfl it's like they get a by week, if you finish a top to yeah.That's what how I see it that they get up by week, but they got the extra restyeah. I think it'll be interesting, because then I feel like it gives moreteams a chance to. You know, get some playoff action that they probably hadgotten before. In a while I mean Wa, Peol Havn't mad the playoff a long timeSoi mean I'm happy, I'm happy for that. Even though they I mean they came inEigth Playe, so that was pretty good, even if it would have been the topeight teams like it regularly is every year yeah they w would have beenplayoum the playoffs that was yeah that a that's still good, though that day itlooks better. You know being able to finish top eight, even though you hadto Picheckit, because then you can have like okay, we would have stile madplayoffs, regardless of this yeah. It's like Ali, like yeah, it's like, Oh, Ididn't need help from this now playoff, you know format, so I make it because Iknow they would have got so much shit if they would have finished in that,like nine o nine to twelve bas yeah. Oh Man, like neget enough shit as of noweven for me like I, would have probably gave Shit. I don't have high hopes forthem, but I mean hey as long as we may play out. I think they're going to be alot. I mean we lost these four players and I feel like even even a couple more players. I feel likeYeu're, going to end up leaving, so I feel like we're going to end up gettinga lot more players in the next winter. I strans for window yeah ell see whathappens with that, but yeah. That's my those Ar my bredagous for this Mexicanleague playoffs yeah. It's going to be interesting for this year, but yeahwe'll see how it goes, and so then we got so speaking of Tas.We got the xts player ctei thor non this. Sadly, his team Alla Galaxy wasunable to racial playoffs after having lost to Seattle sounders at home.That's that's sad, and then I mean you, you think I something we talked aboutearlier to me and you how to me, I...

...don't think Lla Gagaxy is thatimportant of a team anymore yeah I mean they. We hear Elli Galaxy Fan, saying: Oh, wegot five MSS trophies. You know like we own la like this. Is Our city we'restill the best franchise and MLSS? Historically, yes, but in the mostrecent years they haven't done anything besides was Lata. You know a that. Ifeel Lik, that was the most recent successful season and they still didn'twin the MLS Idon yeah and they were't even clothe. They weren't yeah, they omwat, but ai weren't conference champions, not even conference t y theywas hat, was A. I think it was the semi finals versus Lefc Yeah and then theyhad losing sovella exactly so. It's like. I don't see how my like it's it'sa bad look for Li Galasy as a team, but also, I feel like it's just a bad lookon the sense that they thought to Chatitho was going to be that man toreplace lat. Then it would have been dog to see that, but we it's like. Weknow that she tri e Thouh, it's not on the same level as Lattan, and hecouldn't he wasn't around for much of the season which I feel like, I feelmaybe played a part of it, but from the Games that we sowght she taldy Thoranon this, he just did not seem how that Yeu tell you thor. None is that wewould see growing up. You know what I mean yeah, no, I agree and then also tolike, come on now they average they're averaging. I mean they have still haveanother game left this coming week, but look they have twenty two points andtwenty two games, they're averaging one point a game. I I that's having playedgood all season long and I'm steey thought he missed a couple games, butthat's something we talked about last week. Last yeah I mean he just I don'tknow just don't feel like like Ilike GALCIS.That important, but I mean we'll, get to see at least Velalla came back andhis well. I came back, that'll be interestingn, so that's yeah it'll beInterestin, I feel like they can make a great playoff run with the hell withthe healthy cules Wello back. I don't know if it's deep enough to get on thattitle, I feel like I've seen a couple gamesind. Their defense has been a little ify because, but I feel like that'swith every MLS team, like the defense is a Nevornot like a hundred yeah yeah. So I mean I don't know unless we see aGaros Vela from like last season, it'll be hard. He knows coming off an injury,but that'll be interesting and then something also want to last thing. Iwant to add about the MLS. I feel like all these American players to. I feellike they're, going to step it up in the playoffs because of the last USmends national team, roster at only featured players in Europe, exep Europ,yeah, Paston Lega, which only joined the team, because the whole covidsituation with Jos, Shargan yeah they're, going to try to step it upbecause they want to get that call up, especially if all these europeaanplayers do really well in these next two games. So the YOU Yeahso, I'm kindof excited to see how these American players do in the MLS playoffs yeah.There they're definitely going to play a lot harder. I mean I know I wouldseeing that how I I like, if I wasn't like a former MS player, who had beencalled up for the previous yeah US Games, don't get cauglhed up at all, but I also see how maybe the coach iskind of want to give caps to those young players they're going to go upagainst whales. I think that would be a great great match. UF Experience Yeah, obviously not a big team, but a decentEuropean team for these, like youth players to give it a shot and then t eGot Fun, I'm after that, which I think that's just. You know that that' shouldbe an easy win for the United States, but yeah I mean I feel, like the PUNOM.My game only helps them, because those are the typ of teams they play in fortheir World Yeah Plying Huh. So I mean that gives some some sort of. I GuessLeeway has to say as to yeah get to play them be. I feel like I want theWales Game I feel like that should be really good. That should be a game Ithis is where they should just take advantage of their collups, and weshould see a young hungry US squad. Try to fight back and show the world thatthey're ready here to compete. Yeah from Soccer Jus, move on to basketball,real quick. We got some news that the NBA season will actually resumeDecember. Twenty second right, befor Christmas and it's a short end season.Seventy two game season because they want to finish and rap up the seasonright before the Olympics. An Tokyo, yeah that'll be very interesting andthen, before that w we got free agency. NONUMBER twelvy. Yes, forget that feagencyis going to be a good one. We got some big names, we got I'd, say thebiggest name right now, even though I feel he's going to resignwould be Anthony Davis come on. Is that even come on? He osme with the Lakershe wanto, okay, yeah Hess Ip. I fee like okay, we're talking about bignames, woul say like Anthony Davis. You know because he's technically a freeagent, though, even though he has he...

...willressign with the Los Angeles Lakers,I'm come on. WHO, wouldn't you have Lebron your team? A you just won thetitle: That's like a noe brainer, something else I want to. I thinkBrandon Ingram is going to resign with the Pulicans with e, really goodcontract. Oh yeah, they got, they got a new head coach. I believe too right,yeah yeah. So that's a new project I feel like yeah. He would also be verywilling to stay, you know and try it out with desion. They get a whole season to play with each otherwith a new coach that we should see how they progress foward and I'm calling henow Lanzo Ball, most improve player o the year. I'm calling everything yeah.I think so Ning that I cul see because he had agood. He gothe ha some good games in the BUBBL. You know and he come up withthis girl. He got back with this girl with Hia. You He's Gonn ie him thatyeaon lays gonna,give m that Michael Porter Dude Onnmuy. No, but I feel like that's a extramotivation. You think I think Yous gonna get thatmotivation dome. Oh My! If you know you know, Yep ifonof Yo know what we're referringto. If you want to look it up, O Chi butisuggest now to because you know that's other than basketball and explain howthat happened. Iilike somebody else is really big.Andrew Drumman. What do you think he's going to do? Oh, I think that's a big.I feel like that's a big Freang for any team. Looking for a center, I think he's going ta go to a contender.I don't see him signing with any other TEAMTA's Mota contender he's Bonplaying good basketball for a couple. scengs now and I feel like he's goingtowant to compete for an a championship. You Know Doand, then you seen likeremember the start of the season and especially like he was doing helly good,like he was a top player in the NBA for like a couple weeks yeah he was, he wasballing out. He a IE, seen bigeos this do working on his treet. You know, butain't the same as a gym. You know, as on the court, but he's putting in wordto try to get picked picked up by a good contender. I we also seen how would say Fred VanBlee- that's that's I'd, say that's another big createy! I want to see himon the Lakers. I think he'll do good on the Lakers. You think I replace. What'shis replace Daddy Green, any green fucking sucks. Oh my gosh, do he wasthrowing breaks all the finals. I don't see him if I were the Lakers. I wouldnot resign him. Weve got a fucking ring exactly he got. He like yeah he's DennyGreen. He has championships, but when you look he has it balled out the wayhe did as when he was on this burs. I feel like that was the best versionthat we got of Denny Green Yeah, but couple years ago, yeah that was yearsago, but yeah. I don't think that he would resign for or the Lakers wouldnot want to resign him either way they should. I I see them signingforgrampleet. That would be a good signing because he's a good score andhe's a good ballhandler. He leaves those transitions, hello, Fastan, thats.What that's? What like got help? He was a vital and keep clayer for the Tornoraters and winning that two thousand and nine Teen Nva finals yeah. I feellike that was a really good turnound for his career, like I feel like thattransition, his career from, like Usan average player to a really good playeryeah he went from who is that Drake Lookin Dude. So, like Tati S, a balleryeah to like Fred Van Blee, where everybody knew his name Exactly Sa, weust wee Marde, rosen ase, a was aboutto say to I mean I would wish if I feellike, if Ras on Rondal leaves and then who else is their point guard,will Danny Green, the you they will use Calla pope pop get rid F, O Denny Green, get ridof. I think Rasan Rona should go. You think I say he stays he' because he's aleader he has experience, ithin get rid of quink Cook, Yeahhel Yeah Si, don'tknow why they even pick them up to be honest. Well, you think who o you thinkthe Lakers have cap space for a DEMARDA Rosen contract if they get rid of Denny, green and I'd,say Quink clook and maybe another player, callwo Pope, I would say Iwould, I think they do- would have enough cap space. Maybe if not, thereis a luxury tax that if they go over, they would just have to pay. I mean Idon't know if thei owners would want to do that. We see teams like warriors who they'respending millions on luxury tax, but I was reading an article how that, sincethey were jers not going to be no fans, so there's going to be some exceptions.You know it's going to go down, but for...

...the Lakers I feel like they could clearup CAS base for Demarda Rosen and if you really wanted to be there, youwantnot take such o a big contract and I feel like he ends up. I think hestays with the spurs honestly. I don't see why you bi, I think so, because Imean they need because wo als other than to Marti Rosen who's, your bigname player on the Spurs. Nobody really they're, just young Theye, just there aD, that's what I'm saying yeah, but I mean from what I from Wat like you know thatwe've been hearing about NBA rumors, the Barde Rosan wasn't really happy inspurst as never he I mean you seen how, likehis speech and everything when he left Toronto, like I feel like he never evenwanted a play there, but they did. It was a trad. He couldn't domuch about it. Yes, that's what I'm saying he's like one of those playersto how I really respect he's got a lot he's got through a lot with likedepression, anxiety, he's one of the front runners of the League who havespoken out about mental nr, spec yeah totally, so I feo manjust if you're notcotoable, on the spirs, which I think you're going to stay. I don't know mango look for somewhere where you're going to be appreciated: Someon, Wer,yeah, Unyour, love for basketball. Again, and hopefully we see him bawling like hewas on the rapin on Andi, but I mean soccer. I don't I wouldn't be surprisedif Fred Ram leaves rapters does go somewhere else, oh and then the roseand Co back field te Ros in that would be cool to see hem with theraptors. Don't know if if the raftis organization would pursuethat, but I mean with Koigon and maybe friend Vamligon, I feel like you couldform a big three with him, the Ros in and PASSCA Siakom. That would be wo see Iwoul. U really good to. He really change. Yeah great players, even thoughhe under performed, I would say in the playoffs in the bubble, but he hasproven to be a like good player and he can have some good games. Youknow we saw that in the thsand and ine teenba finals, but I we'll see how Hollsee how that happens. How that Goe, a the last player want to talk about.Sowe won, take up jackets. The point Gard for the Miami Heat he's Awsome: Ohyeah, fres, a Fre Agen. What D he es I wouldhe is probably I'd, say: Hesstaying on eastern team, I don't see to comeinto the West. He is kind of injury pro. Now he had hewa. He isn't balling like he would. He had a good season, I'd say, but it's agood season and compared to the most recent seasons that he had wher, hekind of was just there. He wasn't having breakout games. He was havingdecent games in this season. He kind of elevated a little bit, but because youknow Jimmi Butler and we had tyler hero, we had bammato bio. You know he had Om.He had better players to work with, so I coulds so that maybe that's why heplayed better because he was an Ame's leading score in the playoffs yeah, itsurprisingly over Jimmy Butler yeah. But I mean I don't know t that's a good.That's a freegood foree, a e SOM, saying yeah. It's a really good pointguard! That's in the mark, yeah and I I feel like, but I feel like also JimmyBuwler- is that type of player to tell the fornt office like hey, like lookhow far we got this season like we got to keep players. If anything I feellike. Maybe they sign somebody fish, you just see they need. They need anextra. They need another key player, you know yea and does it Obus Huhganes? Really, as a word Fan, I'm like hell,nobuit's hard, it's hard to say because I mean who would who would you tradefor Geonis? You don't want to trade any of the young Ers who Wereh Rol yourplayoff run. So I mean that's hard and I'm pretty sure, Milwaukee's not goingto take a cookie and a freaking water bottle for EFOR Gottis do they're goingto want some big draft picks, and maybe one or two good players for gens noithat's NBP right there you're not going to just let hem. You know Gonnowalk exactly, but if there is, if he were to leave, I feel it would bethrough a trade, because if he waits out his contract, Milwaukee woill notwant to do that and let him walk without getting nothing to return. Yeah S, they're gonna they're, going tolose, I mean who were the Milwaukee Bucks beforeJonis. I like that's what they're going to become after he leaves they werereally nobody before Ge on his maybe fighting for that aceed trying to getinto the playoffs but pregonest they weren't, really a big MBA team. Youknow: woul Yo honust really put Milwaukee on the map that Ju terms ofbasketball, and I saw that that the east is goingto be really good. The next the next next season, cnets the nets yekd and kayre healthyyep. If, if the next can stay healthy, Icould see them making Eastern Conference Finals Dem Damn near NBAFinals, because when that boy Kati...

...healthy dude he's Eia far Leegyeahnobody can stop him. You touched on. I just got one morefree agent from your Li Lakers thowhy Howard he's a free agent as well. Iseen that I seen that, but I don't know I mean he was a goodone. I don't knowhe was one of those like Yeu said about rase on Rondo. I feel like he was thesame way. He was a crucial like veteran player. That I mean I I think theycould do without a man. I Tani, if the Ave jabill, you think without Ino Mgi,if they have Javo mcgi healthy and consisting, like I mean not Javil Mageelike from the warriors, but like even yea, a little bit more consistent andhelp. But that's the thing with Joel Micgee. You run the risk because he hasa respiratory problem. So even with Lakers and with the warriors he couldnever play a full game. They would have to play them in little birsts yeah. SoI feel like losing dwit Howard. If you have Jao mige offthe four who's going to be your other dependent shoplocker, you know M, so Imean I don't know that it's interes. That would be interesting where thecoaching stuff would wanted to go with that they'd have to change. They haveto least sign another. I don't know thinkwhut, you thinkLebrot want them to leave Welnhowarl Lebron yeah, especially ifit's, U say the Front Office says all right: We got to get rid of onevetteran de Whit, Howard, O rage on Rondo. I feel he would he would want raise onrandars day yeah. I agree yeah. I don't think he would not want to keep doing howwardoverras. I wouldn't even want to keep not like it's teower from like themagic yeah. I Dod, that's if it's like. If it's that's, why Howward, obviously,but it's not an he had a better season than before, but I still don't thinkit's enough for me to choose him over Rondo and the depending on their impact.You know, but it'll be interesting. I'll, be interesting, we'll see how itgoes. Yeah. Some other news: We got canello abras becoming a free agentyeah. This is like big. This is like huge like. I wish I could have anepisode just on this topic, like we say the best forlast. Even I think this isthea. This is bigger than the Che a news to me so yeah Ta Canello Alver, ashe became a free agent after being released from his contract with goldenboy and his own, and so all right, so 'm getting from the start. So at firstthis seemed like love at first sighe. This is, he was at the time thecontract he signed for eleven fights in two thousand and eighteen, it was thebiggest contract ever by a sports athlete. It was three hundred sixtyfive million yeah. He hes Lak. Here the bag he to cure the bag, and then covidhappened fucked everything up, and then he ended up seing for damages of twohundred eighty million, which all of that he hadn't received yet huh, and heknows from his contract from his contract, and so now he became a freeagent after a couple. What I think it was like a month or two of litigationsand they were never able to reach a settlement as they were, never able toreach an agreement yeah and they just with coved that Wus. That agreement wasprobably super hard, because there was no intake, no income of money that theycould get, because there was no fighting and that's something that,like I talked about with edigor on one of the episodes two er its like Canelloman like all right, you're gearanteed, that, like he, was guaranteed thatamount of money when he signed the contract. But what Sports ContractSports Organization or sports media or anything, was like having the pandemicin mind of how much money they were going to lose like you exactly like itwas common sense that dude you got to take a paycub, but I mean he's beingCanello. He wanted to have his guarantee amount of money and that'ssomething his Zon just was not going to do, especially the type of thing thatCanelo is, who always has packed arinas all that money they generate from aexactly attendance. It's crazy Wut that, because that's where the wholecontracts are colated about Weit'she's, the biggest boxer at the moment, Iagree and then iis a fan. Tak fans are going to pack Menis, no matter who hefights, yeah that that they had no covid in mind and that's what I feelCano Albras failed to under you know to understand, but I can also see why hewould want that money because N it was a contract in the contract as acontract, but I mean too, I feel like he just found a way to get out of it,because in the coming he's had problems with a golden boy and Ostadela oyl. Forlike months, I think it's been like a year or two that he's he doesn't evenspeak to Osa do Lajoy and that's like his promotional company. Yeah wasfinding a way, and this was like the best way because he actually had he hada really good lawsuit going on that had really good like stuff to depend like he would haveifl like he would have won the Las Su of. I would hav proceeded in court yeah.He had. He had I he had. He had enough to win what he was fighting for yeahand so I feel like he was just finding a way to get out of his contract, and Imean he did it. I mean because then also he never lived like his disonecontract. whateverybody was saying like damn like that. Contract is huge usgoing to get really good fights like...

...all the middle weights were signed withthe zone at the time like really good, yeah and then look. His first fight wasagainst rocky fielding for a secondary title to He's next FY. His next IHT waspretty good. He unified titles with Danny Jacos. I feel like that wasprobably one. I was Lik osis matches, yeah. That was one of the good ones andthen the third one I mean I gotta give him credit, because he bet a bigger guyin Surgay covelip for a light heavy weight title, but it wasn't Saint CoviAv that Yeahcovleb fucking four o five years ago, would have killed CanelloYeah Os. I mean I give him credit. He fought a bigger guy. Canella was theone moving up, but it was a old COVLA. Covlov even said he wasn't like ahundred percent for thea. You could see that you could see that and hisfighting you could jus exactly so I mean I don't know I mean in my perspective, I mean cellas thirtyyears old, he's young, I feel like he wants to just follow the footsteps ofFoy may weather who, in his later part of his career. He did this Xack samething. Flometa Flod may weather was originally signed, with top rank forthose who don't know famous fro, who promoted a manipack,yell Lomenchanko, yeah, Ow Markis, and then he ended up becoming a free agentas well, and he started his own promotional company money. Tea Been Themoney team and then he made the most money like that. He became yeah Bonhemad wether through that become being a fai and then he would sign his networkdeals. He signed a network deal with show time and that's where you wouldhave all thise paper views and then I think that's what I think. That's theRock Kannalas going to do. I think he's GOINGTO, probably sign with either ESPM pay per view show time he had alot of good fights the highest his highest paper view fight against Maywi.There was on show time, and I don't know if you were, I don't thinkhe don't think he works again with his own. I don't see that yeah. I don't seethat either. I feel like the zone. I feel like this zown failed, the hype ofstreaming for Sports. You know paying so like sign all those athletes. I feellike they failed like from what the hypt Thatt was building around them andnever lived up to it yeah and then this whole thing didn't help either likeespecially I e Golov Kan, never really got, and then the thing is to likethat's the main five deson was pushing for was Kanellogalofkin three yeah atfighting. They were therwere feeling on that yeah and that was amaz wet. Thatwas one of the important reasons of the whole. Lawsuit too was that dezonewasn't approving fighters because they wanted him to fightGolufkin and yeah, and then that's why hew canello would wouldn't get. I feellike the fighters he would want to get. You know what I mean an the fights thatwe allwould want to see. You know we didn't what who is I? Why is he findingthis rocky fielding dude? You know like Ro, just that was just to get a titleat hundred and sixty eight yeah, I like yeah. No, I agree with a trash fightlike we wanted to see. Like some good fights you know, tha, we got peoplepaying twenty dolar a month, but we Wento. We don't want to see this wetwewant to see some good fights, but then I feel like ther whole. Like responseto your argument, tdes one had, I was like all right: you're paying somethinga month where you're also not paying that eighty doars a hundred dlar justfor one night of boxing, like you're, paying that monthly feed but you'realso getting a lot of fights everyo every week and every month, that's true,but I feel like that, but is Canello like I feel, like the majority ofdezone. Subscribers were for Canello yeah because you, because yeah they hadBo, had fights going on, but they weren't big maine fights enough, likeyou know, to get Canello type number of viewers into watch and I feel likethat's why Cannelos I I could live without desown, because I know I'mgoing to get those followers on pay perview match. You know I'm still goingto get that money because we're Wat canello fights do this. All the eyesare going to be on him everybody's going to tune in no matter where he'son, especially with Lomanchenko losing I feel like canalogists became thatnumber one. He became that number one on a lot of Poperpoun list. We're goingto continue to see that. But then I mean his next fight is going to be trashed.I'm calling it right now his because he want. He said that he's he has to fightand he's going to fight in December, which is only lik notice, yeah, so he'sgonna fight next month and it's going to be a trashup nobody's. Gonna want tofight thim on a month's notice. Being Caneo eoe is Gonto, be some. I thinkit's one of two people it Esar going to be IBF champion at hundred and sixty eightKalu plant WHO's tweny. No, I think that's probably one of the fights thatis most doble, especially because cale plant is cheap in terms of money that they would have to pay himfor that fight to go through yeah, and I mean it's on PBC. He fights hecoald, probably fight on Fox pay. perviewer show type of review just makelike a one. Fi Dea for Catello and e also said that he had already receivedthe call from Canello e. He would accept. I mean that's his biggestthat's his biggest fight of his career. I don't think if you EAHION, even ifyou lose a fire, I mean Youstak is yeah...

...and especially like he being a hehasn't been champion for that long and he would probably want to get thatmoney grab and then yeah I mean if he believes himhiself, because he has areally sad story too. With this whole his daughter passing way Tik. He has areally good storyline he's a really good, I mean,but then the fact to he's a really good boxer to me he's a really good boxerhe's not much of a puncher he's a he's, a good enough boxer to maybe keep upwith Canella for a bit yeah, and then somebody else to who I think I don'tknow something that they were. I don't know if it's going to happen or not soit's some guy named Abne Yoldrim he's the number one contender for the WBC,which is vacant right now, because Benevitas lost the bell yeah and his last fight,so Hedi Make Weight so that titled is vacant and especially with Canalo'sinfluence, with the BC being a Mexican fighter being a Mexican belt. I thinkmaybe he fights for that, because that fight was unter negotiations and theywere going to when he was still a golden boy yeah, but then they keptgetting postponed the negotiations because of the lawsuting, because allthe stuff that was going on yeah that would be do that would be it'd, be likea first round. Knockout Tu. You think you he's twenty one and two, but not known at all. I don't know it'sjust first ome knock out if you fight him, but I think those are the only twoespecially being a one month notice notice, Tho, I feel like thoseare only two I gues. So we should. We should expect like a big name, but Imean, after that I think you should fight, maybe even Jermal charlow atoned sixty you can find probably Colum Smith at hundred and sixty eightthere's a lot of options after this, but I think for the for the time being,right now don't expect anything. Now Him bin is first yeah, maybe siaroundseek wit. The mild time is when we usually see some good fights y ahopefully, you know we'll be all be able to watch, maybe a few fans.Hopefully we can get even some fans in there. You know make it even moreelectric, but I hope we do see a Canello fight, payperviewor design,where put it that Shit, where we want we're going to watch it. It's Gonta begood, but you think what do you think Oscar to the hoy is thinking right?nowthough he lost e ES. FIDER ESI mean who bro Yeah. He was I', feel Ye said.Do a mean you lose canella opera do Y, that's the biggest name in boxing rightnow. You know I mean you can make up tough it. I an he arguably has the mostmarkabble fighter. Tell me Rin ar so yeah rianars King Rit.I mean Bo that DDEAAUYS alsocial media brow. Unless Hetero he's like he canbox with some big name fighters, you know and then hisfight his biggestfight jis got. I think it was it yesterday. It just got postponedbecause Luk Campbell tested positive for a Covid, Oh yeah, it's Postpo, he'ssuposed to figh December fifth, and now that's going to be probably move amonth. I think to January, but I mean I mean O Kno, maybe the most marketbablewe just had tank Davis Knock Out Leo Sato Cruiz on pay per view. Soaus. Thatwas a Goo one. So maybe I don't know if ran Garsiav even has that big of a name?I don't know Wewel have to Waiot to see his careeris just starting, but youknow as a right now I do ait nothing, but a social media influencer you knowhanging out will on them tick. Talkers, like Tho, you simp over here withTarlie demilio like Bro. We want to see you in the ring, but we don't want tosee you the ticktocking. You see the video yeah likehroshutoo because I meanallright, I mean other than that. I feel like golden boy, I mean, dependingon Ryn Gars here, which is Hehehas the same trainer as Cannel. I feel likehe's going to end up leaving golden woid, probably join TNELLOS. If CNOO make omepromotion, you think I think so yeah that's how that's actually somethingyeah. I feel, like he's, probably going to be the under Canelo promotion soon,but then I mean they have. They have Virgil Orts, which to me is the bestprospect, the two thousand and nineteen ESPN prospect of the year and to me Ialso think he's the best prospect in boxing right now, so I feel like theyshould. Maybe just I feel like they should. Just move alltheir like attention to Virgil Orts, which just signed with advising companyMTK Global, which is rely really big too so we'll see happen, wit, Virgil orTese, and we'll see what happenes with Ryan Garsa yeah well it'll beinteresting. How going a boy moves on forward after Canello all right guys and that's it forepisode, Ten of Goat Talk. This is Alazo Frius, Havin, mcgona dude. It wasan honor and have it was a pleasure for me to be here and have thisconversation with you which, as Gass, yes, ind Yor now for sure, thanks forstupfing up so make sure nois subscribe. I'm like this shit comen, you knowtwitter, it tweet it. Whatever snap chet this you know, shuttelinkeverybody tuned in this is a good podcast. This guys put a lot of effort...

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