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Episode 15 · 1 year ago

Goat Talk Podcast 015 | Liga MX Review, LA Galaxy Vanney, Inter Miami, Barcelona, Pedri, Real Madrid


In episode 015 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss the 1st Jornada of the Liga MX. They review the Chivas vs Puebla game, who signed the best coach between America with Santiago Solari, Monterrey with Javier Aguirre, or Cruz Azul with Juan Reynoso. Another topic was LA Galaxy signing head coach Greg Vanney, and Inter Miami parting ways with Diego Alonso. Alonso and Fabian also debate on whose a better duo between Pedri and Griezmann at Barcelona or Lucas Vazquez and Asensio at Real Madrid.
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Welcome back everyone. We hope you all had a safe and good holiday season. This episode fifteen of Goat Talk. I'm your host, Alonzo Frius. I'm here with Fabi and once again, and the first thing I want to talk about for this two thousand and twenty one year is my favorite league came back. The League I am Aki started this past Friday. Yet we had the first game of but nine Chiev US after they've got the new season. So much I can say about, I feel like Chivas. I feel like this is going to be the story of the season, man, that they're going to compete against semi average teams, because, come on, Dude, you they were losing a Puebla and then they ended up saving a tie. They only had fifty three possession. And then, I feel like that's just what happens. We don't sign anybody. Every good team in the League signed players. Leon, who won the title, sign players. I'm Medica, who also had a stack team. In my opinion, they signed really good players, because it's a team that's the most fucking stack team in the league. Signed one of the best forwards in the league. And then Chivas Bra they just put up players from their youth academy, and then they just brought a couple players back from loan, which didn't even start. So I feel like it was all pointless. I feel like I don't know who's just but they also didn't have my cs to Regga, I mean to start. Yeah, I mean Vega still coming back from injury. He came in the second half, and then I see us, out of all the players who could have got covid the top goal scorer and most important player on the team was out with Covid Damn. But I mean they had a chance to win. Molina missed the penalty due. All right, that's something again I wanted to talk about. Why do you since when does Molina take penalties? Was it like that the his first penalty? Yeah, that was like just the first penalty ever taken with Chivas, and I'm like, Dude, why would you put your cdm to take a penalty when you have on Duna, even bet, I thought, who's like fifty years old. I would prefer. I would have preferred for him to take a penalty over Molina, but I don't know, I just I feel like this is going to be a story. If she was a season man, they should have signed at least a couple players, especially since they didn't get Victor Usmand back from last season, who they were supposed to have, and then all the discipline actions that have all the players left. Other big teams also played the following day, on Saturday. We had to start off with Leon and Denis. Yeah, so how do you feel as a Leon friend? They lost. They lost. I mean, I have told you for the game, the it as man. Yeah, I thought he was going to win by a larger margin, but I mean it was only two hundred and Sero. I did too. I like as a Lion Fan, like, I saw the the starting line up and I told myself, I'm like, you know what, like with this starting lineup, and then Bek it this full on attack. I was like, I'm not going to get mad at like, no matter what the score is. Like I didn't have my expectation. Sigh, especially playing with mostly of their subs and their two new signings. I was surprised, like actually through zero, then one. I'd have been more when they put in there like starter players in the second half. They I feel like they played worse. In my opinion. I feel like the momentum of the game really dropped, like it was just boring. I feel like, yeah, could I saw that the when the starters went in, like they weren't really in rhythm, and then at the Gatis, who had been playing with that same line of poll game, already had like they already had a rhythm going as a team and I felt like throwing the starters in just like that, like, especially against the EAGA, it is like really didn't allow them to get a rhythm. And we we saw that they created maybe like one or two chances, but it tigets when they went to zero. I thought it would have been more they had more chances, but I don't know, I feel like this was more. I'm breeze took it as like a trying to get his subs minutes early in the season and then just prepare them for the long haul.

Yeah, see, like that's something I don't agree with, like you're the champion of the last season and you're going to start off like that. I feel like I'm but he's kind of shows some not like I don't think that's a good tactic. Like you want to give you a younger player minutes, but do that in the later part of the season where you already have that lead at the top of the League, where you already assured a spot in playoffs, but right now you're already starting off bad and you're defending the title. True, I don't know. I don't know. What are you thinking? I mean he had that two weeks ago too, that he would start the bench and he like he kept that. He actually did. He said probably for the first one or two games. So probably after maybe next for another they'll probably just start with the regular lineup. Novado men. And yet it also didn't trouble with the team. I don't know. I think they're supposed it was injury wise. NAVADO had the offseason surgery to his toe and probably men and I don't want a hundred percent. I don't know. It's a first game. Could have been worse. Yeah, we'll see how they react next week against Batchuka. And then something I also wanted to ask you is who do you think signed the best coach? We had three big teams with new coaches. We have a medica with Santiago Solati, Montere with Javiera Gire, and then it cus asould with wandering also to I hate all that hype of it about Salati Bra like Oh, they're going to be like, Oh, yeah, they will. Yesterday brought you up, played SALUI's chill out. Yeah, I didn't have like that good of a game. I feel like they still need to work on set pieces. They were getting beat a lot in corners and free kicks, and I mean that's how the San Luis scored a goal. HMM. It took a last minute court of our goal to win, and then the thing is to courts of all wasn't even he didn't he did our part and then he didn't play good. I mean that's that was, I feel like, one of America's better players in the past few seasons, one of those players from Mexico that I believe has the best future. But I believe it was correct for him to not start, because even when he came in the second half, he wasn't really doing much until that lastminute goal where he got that beautiful pass from Betroquino, who just, yeah, one of a Medica signings, and then, I don't know, I feel like Sandeos a Lotti so needs work to be done. And then he switched up the formation too, for since. When me get at that? I was coach, he would always play with two forwards, and now Solati, he only plays with one, which moved ving yes, which I think should be a started to the bench. And Henry. We saw that too, harder. And then Geo Losanto's playing cam like, but it is like two thousand and ten like probably, I don't know, man, but slatti. And then something else too. With SLATI. It was his first game and he wasn't even able to be on the pitch because his work visa hasn't gone through yet. Yeah, he was up in the in the stands. Huh. Yeah, and it's like, how do they? How do they? How is this work visa not bra like? This is the this is the top league in Mexico, and they were able to acquire a work visa quick enough? I guess not. Now be going back to what you asked. What was the best coach signing? I would say Monterey. Yeah, that's do it. I like, I like, I get it. I feel like, how yet I get is the coach from actor who was like the best experience out of all any coach from Mexico. He coaches, let me go the mared he coached Mexico. He coach Egypt, he coached in Arabia. I feel like he just has a really good resume and then his I don't know, I just feel like his mentality is really good. I mean, he looked his game against out lass. I know it's at last, I know at lass sucks, but I mean they scored in the very first minute. They want to zero. Fun Is Mardi, who's probably going to be the top goal scorer. I feel like this season score yeah, holes and then they want to zero. And then at the end of the match he still said, Oh, I I didn't like the game. I feel like we played bad. Still, work still needs to be done and I feel like that's going to be great for Montere who hasn't had good seasons in the past, and I feel like that mentality is going to really help the team. Yeah, and I could see what he said,...

...that class had more possession than Monterey, with fifty two percent over forty eight. I think feel like that's what he also wants. He wants more possession, took allow for more chances, because I mean, if you like you think of Monterrey, like you would expect like done to annihilate class. The to zero also could have been easily like for zero, because with the roster that they have. So I can see why he would say that, but I don't know. I'm expecting Monterree for sure will be the EA. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. I like how he brought back Punchito one silas, and then he also gave Jonathan Gonzal his minutes, players who maybe didn't play as much in the past with the other coaches. But I don't know, we'll see. We'll see where that goes. And then I feel like the worst one was Crusa suled man, Juandre knows, so, who has literally like all right, no, no coaching experience. You bring him onto the team. That is the Chris. What is the most desperate team that to win a title like soon. It's been like over twenty years since they last one a league title. They choke literally every single season, if that if they even make playoffs, they even have a good season. And then you bring in Juanda knows, who was the only positive thing I see from that is that he was a player when because who last one a title? But how does that help? There's I don't I feel like it even better options they had, because it they had rumored will Sanchez, but yes, on Maza and like you went from those to front. I like what it was like a whole. It was like a whole show because Oogo Sanchez had said that he was going to be the coach, but then last minute they were wanted to reduce fifty percent of wages for his staff, and then that's when he was like no, there's no way. But then because a school as directors later said that was a lie, that that wasn't true, but you never know who's really telling the truth. I mean it was scientist, kind of has a big ego. He's always wants to make himself look good. But I don't know. But still, why don't I know some Man Cup? I don't know. I feel like it's gonna be the same story again with prisssion. Yeah, that was way better options. I don't know why they settled for last yeah, they did, they really did. They played later. We'll see how that goes. And Moving Leagues. Somebody else who also got a new coach is La Galaxy. They hired Greg Vanny. He was a player for the La Galaxy for six years. That's where he debuted and he retired and I feel like that was the best option they could have took. I mean Vanny, he wont to MLS Cup in two thousand and seventeen with Toronto and I believe he has a supporter shield to under his under his belt. Yeah, that was a really good option. He's a really solid coach. He's had a good projects at Toronto. He was there for years and I feel like they made the right decision. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. They they brought in somebody who also has like that La Galaxy background, so he knows what kind of pride and the this type of club needs, where they need to be back in to the top. So I feel like he will he'll bring some like you know, some good some good things. So this team moving forward. But something also wanted to mention is we have sebastel leget and our last episode and he opted. He preferred Dominic Canyar to stay as the coach. But yeah, I like galaxy, couldn't afford to have a coach without a big name, because La Galaxy is just that team. They're the team from La even though LAFC has came down to the scene and had better seasons, I feel like La Galaxy has that history where they can't afford to have a coach without a big name, like, think about it, in the past, vital says, colotto Rina. They couldn't afford to just have a nobody. And I feel like Greg Vanny was one of that coaches at fans in the MLST. Respect for what he's done. Yeah, he's a heavily respected coach...

...for what he's done. What do you do with Torontald to hey? But what I want to mention the only title he didn't win with Toronto Again Chiv US achieve us in the cough Champions League final. So that's that's all I got to say. Let's see. Let's see if you can take Helle galaxy to the next little good, tough champions. But then he also on a interview. He said something I don't say, and this is some something like when you're a new coach. I mean he was a right choice, but come on bright he started offline. He said that all of the pieces are there to build a foundation. Bra No back line is trash. Bob One, who is arguably your best player, is probably going to leave back to Bolkas, since there's a lot of teams in Europe who want him and his salary and contract is really expensive. But they're still negotiating, but it looks like he's leaving back to Bolka. So I mean what pieces teacher? EITO is not in his best form. Jonathan to Santos is having injury problems. Like I said, your back line is trash. I feel like there's a lot that they should have a really big offseason and sign a lot of players. So I feel like, I don't know, man, if you're starting off as a coach, you should set the get go that, oh, I need players, I need a player, I need a CDM, I need to center backs, I need to set a foundation that's actually going to work because, yeah, dude, La Galaxy came in ten place in the conference. They were nowhere near playoff contention. So I don't know, that's something I just didn't agree with starting off. Yeah, he probably, she probably just said that not to seem like a total dick, like saying that he probably doesn't believe the team that he has right now, but I do. I do think that he will ask for some some new players, because if you want to compete for playoffs, let alone like the championship, like you're going to need more than what you have right now. Yeah, but yeah, hopefully you can be charito back to his goal scoring ways. I mean, I hold huge supporter. Better be no more war zone for that dude, for that's all I see. I thought it was getting back to practice and putting the hours in. I got no problem with hill playing war zone, but at least go back to the momentum you were at before. Yeah, because you know he needs to be there. And then another club that also signed a new coach or is going to, is Inter Miami. They get rid of the alt at so after one season. Where your things on that? Dang how how disagree with so? Yeah, Intero Miami, they parted ways with Dago on so after only seven wins, three ties and thirteen losses. But I mean it wasn't his it was his first season and a lot of the big name players that they acquired they didn't play the whole season like at all. We had like mattwide Eguayene and then e Wayne's brother for that ECO also came like in the later part of the season. So I feel like they didn't have like that complete team from game one to the end of the final game. Yeah, they did it it's like they didn't. They didn't let give him time to like get this team to play with each other, because they also did they lacked chemistry, and it's not on him because they've only had it. Could they only had a couple games to play with each other and to base it off like those couple games. But yeah, you got big signings, but you this is a it's a process that takes a while and like they just looks like Intermiami just didn't have like the patients for that and I feel like they're franchise player, which is be sadder, which I also really I feel like he's a really great player. Of supported him in the past years. I just feel like he's just not that same player he was on Chivas or that he was on Wachuca, and I feel like he just hasn't put that team on his shoulders. He hasn't shown that leadership. I feel like at times he shows signs of an experience. He doesn't make the correct pass or he doesn't take the right shot,...

...and I feel like that too. I feel like theyve Alonso could have had a conversation with him, to support him, to have experience with him, to see him day in a day out of practice for just not one season. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't agree with him being sacked. Is there you know about any rumored coaches that were looking at? Yeah, so they're probably going to sign Phil Neville, who played for Manchester Unit. Everybody knows he was, yeah, player. But then again it's another he's never had real like had a coach experience. He was at Manchester United with David Moy's and then he was also at Valencia in two thousand and fifteen and two thousand and sixteen as like an assistant coach, but he's never really had that role of being a head coach, and I feel like this is where David Beckham's inexperience shows, like this is his first year as like the president or see you like the only yeah, and like I just feel like he's just bringing in like one of his friends to be head coach. Yeah, cuz because, yeah, because he went his background with men united. So I feel like he's relying on just that, like that man United Connection, yeah, rather than like looking at actual experience, because the thing is too there Alonso, in his last two teams he won a title with each in their second year. So with Bachuca he won the league and then when Monterey he won the CONCA, cough, Champions League, both in their second year coaching. So I feel like they alonso is one of those coaches that doesn't get settled in right away. So I'm yeah, David Beckham could have took that into consideration, but I don't know. It all started. It all. It was back I don't know if you heard to like a couple months ago, they alonso had a meeting with the Inter Miami like directors and he thought that he had gotten fired and he even told players and stuff like, oh, I just got fired. But then I guess there was like a language barrier and that it was just like a miss under misunderstanding, and he was still the coach. But then months later the same thing happened. They had another meeting and then this time they did agreed to part ways. No, not, that's yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I was kind of those they were. Beckham Great, great player, but I don't know, Maddic like being managing the team. I don't he hasn't prove anything more different story. Yeah, because he like decide as he's getting yeah, that you're ropeeing. But do they're like past your prime? Yeah, they're like my I feel like my tweet is solid, but I don't know, man, the moles is getting younger and younger and really good players are coming forth, and especially as the CDM like, you can get dribbled, you're gonna get dribbled past by yeah, they I don't know. He's relying too much on past talent. Now it looks like that's what you're trying to do from Europe rather than probably finding younger talent from here, which I think that's what I'm a last team should do. If they want, if they want like this type of like country, to move forward in soccer, probably find more homegrown talent rather than just bringing overseas older players. Yeah, but I don't know. Well, I go a long, long ways until the MLS comes back. Yeah, the still probably till March. Hopefully they get back under way and then so we'll see. Something else I wanted to mention to close out. So what do you think is better? Lucas Vascus and I senseio or battery and Greasman? Do you're asking a marist? That duode? Obviously I'm gonna go with I sense you on Bascus. I just for the one reason that I feel like the peathery grease month too, like I'm not seeing anything from greeceman. I see more from petrick rather than grease man. But belison just he scored two goals yesterday and I mean he's come.

I feel like he's getting that form back. You think he's gonna have for back, I mean not to like a padical, myddid form, but like what we expected at least to give. That's yeah, that's true. Already. But he's eighteen and I mean he kind of has the same stats right now is Lucas Vaskas. He has two goals and to assist. But again, Betty's eighteen. He's just starting off. So I feel like he's already like think of think about it. Lucas vasses is the same age as griesman. They're both twenty nine, and I feel like when they signed Lucas Vaska as they expected a lot more of him. But I feel like he's already like not old, but like twenty nine isn't young either. Yeah, no, I no, he's not. That's kind of like prime age. But I don't see prime. But just some saying in that duo. I've seen vast like the vascars es. Sense you do it when Vasca's plays right back and we put a since your right wing. That's when I sent to actually like performs better said he could. He understands more with Vascus rather than having Carbo Hall right back, and that's when we see a since you're being like a goal scorer or even creating more chances because him and vascuts on the right side. They just understand each other so well and they create a lot of danger for posing teams. But yeah, petating Greaseman like I like I see yeah, Greaseman score the two goals. I don't know, petty's actually like kind of shown he's kind of shut me up in a way, because I remember when they sign them and I would give you guys shit like who is that guy? The fuck is that? Yeah, but he's actually trying out to be like that, actually a solid player, because because he's actually consistent and its connection with Matthi is really good too. Yeah, which some kind of surprised that I didn't you know who the hell that was. Actually playing really well. I would really say, if you wanted to argue you now, that I would even say that, but a better doo petty greasement will be peather be messy. That would be a better due. But I feel like like in terms of like those who do us. Yeah, but no, but I feel like messy. Can't even answer that conversation because mess no, I. Yeah, that's why I said that. A league and I feel like message better than the whole starting eleven from a durn. Yes, I was just like Nah, I can't even enter the conversation. But like I met like overall like parts of dooh yeah, and I mean betty. He's given away. He's given twenty six key passes this season and the only player who has more is bessie. So that's that's another crazy stat because, I mean thinking about it, we have the Jong we have boothquetes, who's old and slow as fuck, but he's stay, Johnny really good passes, pijanic. So I feel like there's other mid fields, but it's betty better. He's a second player on the team with the most key passes made. Yeah, Oh, yeah, that's true. So I don't know. I expect that. I don't know. I think. I don't know. I think Betty, I think betting reasoning. We'll see. We'll see how it goes the down the stretch for the LADIGA race. It's going to be a close race for Ladiga now that Barsa moved up to third and then they have a, they have two. It's a three game, not three, point differential from second place, Madrid, and then four point differential from first place. I let to go. So it got tighter again. Yeah, but it's created. I think that athletic goes there three games behind and there in first play. So that's actually that's that's great. I feel like, think it really gain a weed? That's true. I didn't. And then and then Barson, moving on from Louse wires, dude, like that would the worst mistakes you could have made, because we saw this is like on fire. He's really still scoring goals. Yeah, it scoring goals like in every single game, and then even in the couple of the day he's showing out. So I feel like, I don't know, Braithwaite, if you have no other striker to play, who wrote wok? Is that Guy Now? But breakway was doing good for a couple games, but he's not too.

He's not Louise Slides and it's it's bar said, you have higher expectations when you're on Barcelona. You can't just have two good games and then live off those performances and then do nothing. Yeah, and then at least four is I saw graphic. He has more goals and as at is grease, money and them belly combined. Yeah, is it them too? Yeah, like Damn said, I even belly didn't even really hasn't really playing. So that's also, I feel, like, a factor. True, but then also varsus saying that, in a way, seeing that he can't, that can't be there, their striker and their goal scorer anymore, but he's still scoring plenty of goals without Peko. I don't know, it's kind of I was kind of hoping they'd sign somebody during this winter transfer window, but I don't think so, and I mean especially as I'm going to play PSG in a couple weeks in the Champions League. I don't know. I'm kind of hoping they don't get destroyed that bad, but we'll see you. Do you think they're going to make it past PSG? I'll fuck no, hell no. If Im bopping, they more healthy and all of PSG's backline is informed there's no there's no way. Damn, I don't know. We'll see. That's that starts February, I believe, so we'll see in the next month or so how that plays out. All right, guys, that's all the time we got this week. Make sure to like, share, subscribe and we'll see you guys, next time.

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