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Episode 16 · 8 months ago

Goat Talk Podcast 016 | UFC 257, McGregor Poirier, Canelo, Lampard, Premier League, Liga MX, Ronaldo, Lozano

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In episode 016 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss UFC 257 where Dustin Poirier knocked out Conor McGregor, Canelo Alvarez announcing his next fight against Avni Yildirim, the Premier League standings, Lampard as coach for Chelsea, the many covid positive tests in the Liga MX, Ronaldo becoming the top scorer in history, and North American soccer players making headlines, among other topics.

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Welcome back everybody. This is episode.Sixteen of goat talk on your Hostlanzo come here with Fabin again and for thisweek the biggest event for me was conomagret against Dustin Pora and UFCo hudred, an fifty seven. It was a lightweight fight and Porie avenged,his two thousand and fourteen loss. He did, he got a Secaround, Tko VersonMcGregor really ended. It was an early fight.You know I was shocked to O. I had mygregawinning this fight douncing back after long layoff, but forty e got the dove. What was your thoughts on the fight Ta?I also feel like I feel I could conner started off good. He was striking as weall know, he usually goes for boxing in the early rounds, but I think I don'tknow I think Porie just outworked him in that second round. He was strikingreally well against the cage and those calf cakes. I feel, like the calf cakesserved as a better momentum during the fighting compared to porie strikingbecause those CAF cakes even regret er after the fight he said his leg wasdead, so I feel like that really set up those combinations to finish the fightoff and II, just feel like Conno mcgregors defense has gone down in thepast years ever since I don't know, I just think ever since he's been taking,he takes too many layoffs, so I feel like that. Really her has been hurting.His career he's had that fight against may weather, which with mmay, so I feel like that alsohurt like his training regiment we seen to against, like when he fought cowboy.He brought in like a whole nutitional team. He made changes to his camp, but whatmatters most is just staying active like you can spar for many months in a row, but if you're notactively fighting, it's going to hurt you because it'slike a whole another style, it's a whole nother like game is not the same.It's not the same. You know like being in a real fight with just borring andyour camp yeah yeah, no, but yeah. I agree with youwith the with the lake case. We saw how it took a tol at the end when he waswalking out with a crutch for one ti feel like he just ignored thosekicks and it ended up like costing him a lot, because I would just let somemore combinations for parer to strike with, because I was Mgregor's first CaoLosson is emer M te Ma career. So that's that's. Give prop support Yeu on thatyeah being the other dog pulled off the upset. Definitely no could be remet n.We Ere, as we were, probably hoping for yeah. So that's like the main thing Ifeel like nothing can be settled in the division until Kabib announces what H'sgoing no do next, because I feel like he's keeping the he's, keeping the title hostage,because man all right, if you're going to retire, then vacat aret. Why haven'tyou vacated the title you fought since October. You've had many months tothink about your retirement Dana. Why already approached you many times andthen even yesterday, Dana? Why aske Abe? What did he think and then Kabeb saidthat he believes he still many levels above any of the guys that foughtyesterday, that he can bet all of them and it just didn't sound positive as ifhe was kind of come back so ilike. If that's true, culd Beve, then BA at yourtitle this week, because there's a lot of stuff perteining to this division.We just had Michael Chanler, knockout Dan Hooker and the AR THA WS aaso.That's also a big lightwave fight right there, because we could have porie,probably fight gay chief for the vacant title we also have Chares Olivera,could probably fight Michael Chanller and also throw maybe McGregor and themix as well. He could probably fight. I think I mcgrego Shoul Fight Channeller,since it was Chanler's first fight in the UFC, so he still has to climb up inthe rankings and the lightway division and Gaiti since he lost the Kabeb, he'srank number one and so that the whole the whole division is, is up for grabsyeah, we're all waiting to see what...

...couldbe does, because I don't know tome: It's like men, if you haven't fought in a couple months like justvacate, Vacati, Oh yeah, because he's not giving like he's justyeah, like you said, he's holding a hostage so he's not giving any fighters,basically anything to fight for and he's saying that he doesn't like he'sabove anybody else, meaning like he doesn't he' like it's not worth histime. finting those people yeah. So it's not worth your time than justretire and give other people a shot yeah, especially since we have peoplelike Overa who beat Fergus Tony Ferkson, his last fight- and I mean Porie. Hewill also fought recently. He be Dan Herkern, his last fight. So all theseguys are fighting each other, but COULBEB, I don't know. Can you I mean Iwould love, I would love to see. COBEB come back because he's like to me, hehasn't cemented his legacy and its something we talked about in theprevious podcast Oul want him to keep fighting, but I mean do it if you can'tmake up your mind and just vacot the title and then decide to come backlater on in the year yeah yeah I on't know he'he's had so too much time tothink about it and like to not have a decision. You know just keepingeverybody on edge and it' got a now feel like it would make. The O seemmore exciting if he just announces either. If he's coming back or not sothen hit can move forward, but I don't know we'll see. I mean theonly good thing to me that also came out of this regular. Losing is that Ithink, there's no chance of a many packale fight happening because ManiPacko had said and recent interviews that it was either going to be betweenfighting Konof, re, Gregger or earl spense, and I feel like Packo. You haveno business copying the same thing that may wether did and fighting Magreggorin a boxing match, so I really hope that killed all talks and Packo canunify against Earl spanse this year, true and and and McGregor just staysworking to being back in tha Yu s just stay active man I feel like macgreggr.If he stays active, he could really be a threat in the division, but he has tofight at least two or three more times this year, maybe not op opponents andhis next fight, but probably later on in the year yeah. Hopefully this fight was justrusty for him. He can just work back to how he was before you know, becausethat ring rust will get you man, even if her's a mgregrout one point was likethe baddest doitg in the division and the fucking. He was in the UFC when heknocked out Hosiado and that first round I feel like that, was like hispeek and I feel like he could reach that level again. If he just staysfighting constantly. That's what is going to go consistency, you know it's what heneeds. Oh and then speaking of consistency,Canello albrs announce his next fight. It's going to be February. Twenty sevenagainst Yodrum for the WBC Mandatory Yep just announced it this week,they're fighting in Miami which most like people have fans. I think I would say it's just an easyfight for Canalo. I don't know I' looked into a lot ofpeople saying the same thing they agreed. That's it's an easy fight,really, no risk cut off for putting his belts online. You know like against himagaint to you dream, whos, Thousandy, twenty one and two I mean- has twelveknockouts but he's coming off that that technical decision lost anse. Well, WutYeah e already got destroyed by David Benevetaz, but I believe I don't know.I believe the same thing. It's something we also talked about anotherpodcast, I think Canello I mean. If I want to give a prediction: it be afirst fround knockout, but I believe Kella will just he'll. Take it as faras he wants to. If he wants to take the fight to six seven rounds, he's Gointo.Take it there just to give put on the show. Get rounds in, but the only thinghe the only risk he has in this fight is just an injury, because I alsoagreed youjim he's one of those mandatories that nobody knows how...

...he became number one for the title: sFight was a loss and every time yojrum stepped up in competition. He losttwice to Anthony Derell, an Chris huban junior yeah. I don't know he has nobusiness being there but e. If it's a mandatory. That means that Canello getsto keep his belt and keep unifying the division. Then go right ahead. Ouve, nocomplaints about him, finhding, a manatory especialy if it means keepinghis belt, which to yeah most important one, the WBC no yeah, it's like for him.It's a good thing, maybe for us, as fans wanting a betterfight, probably not, but as long as he gets to keep his bilts ind unifying Elgood for him. You know, but you know we we've been expecting a like goodcanello fight for a while, but I don't know, probably maybe later in the year,we'll get a better one, but so fighting right now he's fighting billy JoeSouders in May. That's already for sure for another one of the belts- Oh, it'sfor sure for sure yeah and for the Dbo as long as he wins so he'll have he'llbe fighting for all he'll need is one more bell afterhe fights billy Joe Saunders in May- andhopefully I mean maybe H. I think he wins that fight as well all right, so we're seeing kin O loafstaking over getting O ots. No only complaint well not complain about thisfight, but it's because he was supposed to fight in Mexico. He was supposed tofight either ther were talk, Ou yeah, yeah finting in Balalahara at theChieva Stadium, so I Waldi would have loved to see him fight there, but themain concern about him fighting there was there was going to be no fans andattendance yeah, because we cop a we've, been seeing in the last Chevas Games.There's been no fans and the only stadium was in Masaplan, and it turns out that thee they canteven be fans at that game at that stadium, either so Canela Ope defided Miami, whichthere's going to be fifteen ousand fans at the Miami Dolphin Stadium, so yeahor run generates money for Canello, which had a lot of complaints that hewasn't making the money he was supposed to be ecause of the pandemic. So I feellike there was that's the main reason why he opted for Miami Yeah Yo more ofjust monetary issues, rather than like Locationa wize yeah. I would love tosee him even if it was in the Stadio Stecka, but since he's from wadelahaaro love to see hem either at the Halisco or at the Akron, which is Chu as thestadium, I'm hoping that they save that, likewhell tha, I had a fight wit, like fans can go like won't like they can packthat Shit like that would be interesting. Like t the biggest fightthat you can have there with fans, I don't know that would make like forlike movie type stuff right. there. Yeah, but I mean he would never fight amajor fight in Mexico. It it's always going to be in in Vegas, sadly, should be in Mexico. Some rocky type shit right there, fighting in front of thise mall players,yeah moving we'removing across the pond to the premleague man, united, taking number one spot,keeping it for about two weeks. Now. What are your opinions on that yeah? Ibelieve. Manches united has really turned things around, especially whenall his job is on the line bro, they start playing like Marlona and theirfucking prime, like they really. They have really turned the tables. I meanthey really tay cemented themselves as the first place team in the past week.They just knocked out Liverpool in the fourth round of the FA Cup, so the goodBruno Fernand. Is it looking like the best modsoter in the world right now,and I don't know, I think, Manchash United- it's either going to beetweenthem or Man City, I believe, or Yeah Mane, probably throwing Liverpool. Ithink those are the top pretty contenters right now the Primier League,but matches not. It had been playing really really well yeah man, city rightbehind the second place, followed by lessters, fity and liverpon. Fourth, if you look down to ninth place, wehave lum parts, Chelsea, thawit, yeah, that's that's! That's something we needto dive into his lambpard...

...yeah. I don't know catastrophic and my myopinion what's happening with Elsea, you spent over two hundred millioneuros for for actually like good players. You know we got Zyitbernerhevards joining the team and you're still in nive place with six losses andfive draws and see. That's just I never EXPEC, I thou ther won t be top threeman. I think we also, we always talked about this too,actually like who had the best transfer window and it was like nodoubt Chelsea Chelsea signed the best players available and they already watlike a pretty selted team. In my opinion- and they just I I mean they wont today in the FA Cup,but they played against Ta g, a team of the championship. Okay, no, yes, likesecond division. ECOND division were Tammy. Abraham squard a Hattreek, butthey just haven't met expectations at all. Like I thought, ther were going tobe a lot stronger out, thought the chemistry was going to be a lot higherbut come on man. You can't spend that amount of money and then not even betop five exactly and like yeah. You would mention it before the seasonstart. You, like yeah, Chel, see top three Tup three, you know in the prem,and I mean there was reason for that. But, like this, this display thatChelsea is putting on is not really the teams faull ID put it more on that PRlampart. Just because how do you have such great talent, but, like you, can'tget the full potential out of your players. You know yeah bet see, that'ssomething I want to dive into. I feel like players who had really good careers andtry to be coaches right away, especially on big teams. I feel likethey fail. I give you a few examples. Purlo I mean Pelo. He just won theItalian Super Cup, but he sits at fifth place in the city a and I mean Juventiswant the sety out title nine years in a row and you're sitting at fifth place.EXAMPLE: number two Janada Gattuso Woul, not bullu. He hasn't been able tosolidify himself in the Champions League and he also just lost the finalto Juventus Artheta with Arsenal arsonal, justarsom Li fucking Suk. So that's another player, Terry onree. He was sackedafter just one year, coaching Monacle in France, that's another player Soladiwhen he coach Romadrid after as anythings ad done, he was alsosacked in like six months. I tik the only player. The only player who becamea quote unquote. Good coach, Rit away was Edon, but I believe only because hehad Rinaldo in his prime he adluse Wotagh Luca modrids in his prime whowanted Balondeoto. He had a one of the most stack teams and they won a lot ofchampionships. They won champions eage. So I feel like coaches, who were players recently, especially Habig clubs. It just doesn't work. You need experience to start off at smallerclubs. Work your resume up and then be able to have the confidence to train ateam with such big name. Players like Lamforn has right now on Chelsea yeahand especially if you have a big project like Chelsea has withtheirs team like you would want to coach who has the race solidifiedhimself as a as a good head coaching and has like respect from the like thethe world of football as a coach like but choosing lum part. I don't know. Ialso I remember when they chose him. I told you to that. I don't I didn't. Ididn't see aothing good coming from it, and I mean it's trowing right now,you're sitting nihtplace in your own freaking league. You know yeah because,like here's he's another example of a player which I think was a good choice andsomething that other players should do, Steven Jarard Loike he's not coaching areally big team and one of the top five leagues in the World He's coachingRangers in the Scottish Premier League. He a tree points clear, first place andhe's already completed a hundred and...

...fifty games as head coach, and sothat's that seems like a really good project, he's probably going to win theScottish league with Rangers and he didn't choose a big team right away. Sothat goes to show that if you start coaching smaller clubs,you'll have success yeah, because the on it's totally different from being aa player than being a coach, and I feel like they don't recognize that and theyjust try to go and coach right away to like a big club. But it takes a lot tolearn to be a coach and yeah, like you said, he's coachingand the Scottish Leag, which is good and it's not a lit HEDA has no pressure,so it give them to work. You know, give home time to work with, but when you'reat a big club, all the eyes around you- and I feel like maybe that's what'saffecting lampart to and his decision making specially since Chellse hasn'twont the Premier League in Multiple Years. Exactly it's I don't know either. I feel like he either figures. Er t outthis season, or he doesn't see another season Af to this, you know yeah. Iagree so we're staying with soccer movingback over here to Mexico, Niga mackes having a coved problem, specificallywith Montere, who brought up twenty one positive cases leading to postpoementwith their game, Berceleon and also Americas game, see ind, that's Bro!That's again, something you only see in Mexico, man like how was he, how haveyou guys not got down the corona cases, man and especiallycome on? Do? How do you have double digit positive tests and then stillhave a game played that game? They playd against so Medica, I'm prettysure hello players had covid, because then it resulted in players from Medicaalso having symptoms like Ochoa Thats gollies in the league. He hascorona. Now he tested positive and they resulted in yeah. Like you said, a lotof games were canceled andit's. Just I don't know it's justlike it blows my mind that they haven't got down the whole regiment of how to controlcove testing because the only change they made like this is stupid. The onlychange they made is instead of testing for covid every fifteen days. Theychange it to every ten days. How the fuck are you not testing like every daylike every day or even like dude, every five days like money through Friday,and then there's games Saturdays Sunday? Usually, like I don't know it juststands. Med then there's problems like this for games get postponen and thenplayers get affected. Big Players get effected Speciy. Since Mexico, the national team is going toplay soon in February and March. So I don't know it's going. Ao Affect, Ibelieve, a lot of teams yeah and it's and it's like Lik. You said it's likeaffecting a lot of teams, we're saying that these COBI cases like they don't just affect the teams of theplayer they're affecting not just the teams that they played against Bo, soother teams, because a medicas game they play that week go but the way itaffected them was. Their game was canceled for this weekend. So thenthat's what you're, putting like a whole, maybe one week, almost two weeksthat these teams don't play. It's like you're losing the players can lose,probably the momentum that they probably had, and then they have tolike restart everything like we're talking about with like Leon looking attheir schedule. That's a whole two week gap from ther from the glassging thatthey play to the next yeam that they play, and it's kind of like why? Whyiser it to week up, I feel like the league, should maybe not postpone hemand I feel like that'. They should have been it's sort of been more of apunishment for teams who don't have like players play cobid like play withyour youth squad. You know, and wes kind of like we saw in the PrimierLeague, I believe were Aston Villa they had a play with like their whole youthsquade. I don't know if you saw that yeah with the Youth Academy, so it'slike yeah, so I agree. I totally agree with that. They should be punished,especially dude Montere Brob. They had that many positive test, Bro thed haveto pay with their like under, is or...

...under seventeen for real. Rightfully soI mean we have players. Like my whole infamous picture ofcavicitaroriges from CISESOL at a party with Bro, this dude had his our frendanybody wondering Caito e's a forward for Crisaso. He was captured on videoat a party, nobody's wearing masks, everybody was drinking and he waswearing his crisaso traini uniform to everything like the track. So he hadthe the COUSA foward shirt, the GA it pants and it was like he just came frompractice, basically so like Bro, if you're gonna be doing that like atleast like where something else bro, they cut you in for k, Bro for and thenalso ombody also Alan Mosso Alam also also broke. The code of coronavirusehe's also suspended, for I don't know how long from Puma. So it's like alsoplayers have to step up to and stop stop it going to parties. Man Like it's,you e you, don't you have a platform yeah? It's you have a it's like a it's. A league effort toyou know, keep covid out of the Games, but it seems to like players. Wsome oftheres players would just seem to like knot, care and, and it looks totallybad because a lot of these players are from big clubs. Will you consider like,like the top teams in Mexico, it's like it puts like it stains the league aswell, because the teams who should be like putting the example like ohverethe we're one of the top teams? You know we have good players orinstitution as a whole. It's like has respect like you're standing, theleague from not caring about such a panemic. That's like been killingthousands of people, you know yeah, so it's something that even the LeagueImax has a whole organization. Just try to fix their whole system of how theycarry corona testing and corona prevention. Maybe they could implementa bubble like we saw on the MLS and in the NBA that I believe that worksreally well, but well. The LE I make is want to spend that amount of money tohave a bubble, probably not if they don't want Tu. If they don't want tospend for more continuous testings and Lesser Timespan, you know they that'sshowing that they don't want to put also their money into it. Yeah I mean ateam that I would have fuck manage since you lay on. I would want to haveshewas to have that to we get to because they dit I'm not like. I Wan I wantto likeonto like play during this week, because I need 't, tell hes get tin Momentom back. You know to because she was do. She was Hadantuna playingnumber nine bro like thisis this at more of a coaching issueor Fi ifeer like his man, that lineup was fucking atrocious. He Ad Ondunaplaying number nine and then he ended up switching him, because thatobviously didn't work like that. Only works with like elite players likeFeranthotis from man, city who's, also winger, and then he played number nine.When a wheddow was out, he did really. He was scoring goals, but antuna isn'tFaraun thoris bro like no that's ver, she was, she was justlike. I actually think they're no going to make playoffs, but I don't know it'sstill early in the season is rather that they struggle now then down theother line, O yeah, I don't know, maybe with my ses back, you know slowlygetting back from covid. He might I'm pretty sure he'll go back to the nightspot. Yeah I mean he scored. He scored his first game back when he came in asa sub. Oh yeahe subways yeah, but I'm mean the ost to they were down threezero. They scored. TWO GOES IN THE FIRST THIRTY MINUTES: Yeah Fe, that's on the coach, well seeif fo mix adjustments for their next game to move on to our last topic.Ronaldo, he became the high school score in history, which is huge. He scored seven hundred sixty goals andnow he's he's aenumber one but IFEE IIT onl,because mats hasn't been playing as...

...long as him, but I mean all creditsWerennalthou to me he's I don't know I like messy a little bit more butrhenaas just he's a more complete I feel like and it's something we've alsotalked about. So I don't want to like sound repetitive but yeah. I thinkwe're in all those probably top three of Alltie, no yeah. Definitely whod Yo. What D he passd for it was.The Athen was a was that creation player or from where keep like he passed them for the numbereer once Bot, but the federation for his for, like the country of playfor,was all of a sudden finding goals that they probably didn't know before, like what the fuck like hy. Are you tryingto like discredit like greatness? You know and it's it that, like with Belet,remember yeah was I messy Wen ye sor the host goalsfor one club, all of a sudden Santo started, bringing up like Om as goals unlets, a bably goals,scrimmage goals. You know, Oly Practice Goals Goes in his back yard, sothegos Gos atescore, with te new Aro yeah, but ilike. It's checkathe past Tub checkplayerJoseph Bekon iwould check clar. There you go yeah and they were announcing like as soonas they announced like he passed Hem theywere like Oh. No. We found fiftymore goals yeah because now they're saying that that dude become, I don'tknow if I'm even pronouncing his last name right by Canor bitcon his check,but now they're saying that he has eight hundred and twenty one tothey.Just playin goes out there ass at this point to be honest and think about it.Thinkhe last pay one thousand nine hundred and fifty five, so that was years ago, so man, the didn't, evenhave like Internet, so hol, O fuck. How you going to like find these? Are youguys going through like nesepapers and like fucking, the ground o like like? Where are you gettingthese goals from now they're just trying to, I feel like they're, justtrying to make it harder or discredit? You knowthese like messing and all those to like move forward and goals. I don't know we'll never know to behonest like because we tak might be line or they might be true. You know yeah. Well, I don't know it's somethingthat, because keepyinr record has it's like it's never like before theywouldn't really do it. So it's hard to tell or to like actually like maintainthose records they probably could have been lost, but still six seven hundred sixty goalsis still like incredible. You know a large amount yeah, so props EwereNalltone, especially jument as there they're playing all right, but I don'tknow they got to step it up in league west Western mckine's, also playingreally well an also shot out to a couple North American players, sowestern mckineyh's been playing really good. He just scored today for Juventus Chukilosano. He scored the fastestChool and Napoli history. Today, the first nine seconds of the game JordanMorris from the Seattle sounders just signed with Sawansi, but there they'rein the championship, they're not in the premier league, and it's still good though I stillthink that's a good yea. I he European play the I mean you're still in a FACup, you know HEU still get a fake up action and he can probably bakatosteams to a top team, yeah they're, looking to push back up to the premierleague. So I don't know we'll see if he can hope. Once you get back into thePremier League, which they were a couple years ago and then also, we have matthew, hope Wiscored a hatchick for Chaka and then he scored another goal. Af following that,so I don't know we have the US and Mexico on the map. Yep shout out to them, keeping whatYo''ll doing especially tokey. I want to see that witha three, an the nextcup coming, matches it's good to see, got to so finally giving him hisminutes and he's taking advantage on them. We know scoring bolls so what Ineeded to do and he's finally doing it so we'll see. But that's all the timewe got for this week so make sure the...

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