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Episode 17 · 8 months ago

Goat Talk Podcast 017 | Super Bowl LV, Brady, Buccaneers, Tigres, Neymar, Messi, NBA All Star Game

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In episode 017 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss Super Bowl LV where Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeated Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Tigres reaching the final of the FIFA Club World Cup by defeating Palmeiras, Neymar signing a new contract with PSG, Messi's contract with Barcelona being leaked, US players in the transfer window, and Lebron James stating that he prefers there not to be an NBA All Star game.

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Welcome back everybody: This is episode.Seventeen of goat talk on your host Alanzo and we just had one of thebiggest port events of the year. We had super bowl. Fifty five and the firstthing I want to ask you Tom Bradys, a go right on disputed goat for sure bywinning this Super Bowl, making his seven three and he does some men. Ibelieve his desimen him as the greatest football player of all time. I THINKTHERE'S NO! After what he did and the way he won. There's just like no debateunless you're, probably like an old head Ho watche football like fiftyyears ago, you could probably throw in like Joam Montenor players like that.Now I don't go. Fukwit you're an old at sat, seven rings do its yeah. He hasmore rings, thand Miksu Super Bowl. To that I mean there's superbat winters,but then the New England patrons and the Pittsburgh steelers. So him alonehe has te most rings so that, like that alone, like if anybody tries to discussthat, why he isn't the Goa like HEU could just say. I have seven rings andthat's enough for conversations over yeah and he has five Super Bowl mvpswith that it's like what else do you need for him to like for you to noacknowledge that he's like the goat football and he really outplayed thenext up and coming star, which is Patrick Mahoms? Oh Yeah, he pactur myhomes had a rough super bowl. He had, he did not throw for a single touchdown.He threw for two interceptions, even though he he had two hundred seventyyards, but he two twenty six passengs totwenty six Om plitonts out of fortynine passes, which I mean that's pretty shit. Those two interceptions like were alsolike yeah. They were probably like badded passes that fulk to the Defanse,but I mean you have zero touchdown passes in the Super Bowl. Like youcan't that can't happen. I wul also something I want to throw into like thechiefs chose the worst time to have their worst game out of the wholeseason. Yeah because think about it. They want every single game in theregular season. Excenpt to the raiders, which I don't know was maybe like alittle hick up a little yeah. What do you think like it wasn't really like? Ijust I don't know that part. It was just like you know those one gameswhere they probably don't play like as themselves like whele. They just takeit. They don't take it as serious, maybe just because it's a regularseason game and they already knew for sure they ne Er when they hen theyplayed them again shortly after and they beat the Raider. So I mean yeah,it wasn't only lost, but they made up for it. But that's just what sucks likeimagine doing so well in a regular season and your worst game on thebiggest stage I' tie. I've been, I mean yeah my homes like zero touchsounds,but I got TA. We got to get credit to on me. I believe should be for he. Thepassing the defensive line for the bucks for putting pressure on Mahome'sa whole game do was scrambling for his life. Where was the fucking O line?There was no vorthe a persection from myhomes, and I get that's why I'mgiving credit to h the books deline for doing their job and going o pressorhomes, and also you saw that double teaming titery kill really made it hardbecause that's his number one target yeah yeah Kelsey had a few catches. Hehad he caught he caught for a hundred thirty three yards. He had tenranreceptions, but obviously wasn't enough. Although on the other side we had dudgrunt having two touch Tas Craz and nobody expected him to be like theespecially for to be receiving the first cash for the touch. Now. Nobodywho would think that he would go to drunk exactly, but I don't know I feellike that- was just sa that old that Caniswa Lan Lan en because, like theybroke the record for the most, they threw for thirteen touchdowns, that'sthe most in playoff history between a duel. So that's something they werejust breaking every type of record to grunk, also the first player to receivea catch in five different super bowls, another crazy stet. So I just feel likethat connection, that chemistry but theyn speaking about the patreiots toso, do you think this super will ring diminishes bellatics importance, indTom Bradi's career? Do you think Tom Rady could have done it withoutvellatic by winning this yeah? I think I dothink not I'm not taking I'm not taking away. That buller check is a greatcoach because everybody always talks...

...like when somebody mentions Tom Rady.They always seem to mention buill billachickand. How great a coachBellatic is just not not in football bul like in sports in general, like howthat coach has like that recognition as being a coach with six rings, just yeahoutstanding, no yeah yeah. I know that's why I mean I give him the creditto, because he I mean yeah, it's Om Bretty. I gave him credit for coachingthe the comeback against the Falcons. Yeah Tom Bray was won to score that,but I feel like a lot of that had to do with bill pellecheck Bill Belchens, agreat coach yeah. He had a shit season, byt mean the patriocxs really didn't,have any good players yeah. But I'm not I'm saying that Ifeel like the winds that Patrios got were more for Tom Brady rather than GiBellacheck, but I'm not saying that Bil Bell checks like a bad coach like dolike he's a for sure, one of the best coaches in Tha Oo time, yeah NBA, Imean my Badflnow, but on all serious its like yeah, like I mean Tom Bady winning this shows likehe doesn't need bill bell, check someone a that's Gonto, say no on theother side yeah! No, he doesn't. He doesn't need Bibillat, because I meanhe won oher Bruce Areans, who didn't win? WHO, like probably re, I'm prettysure I think he has one suerable reach or if not it wasn't. It was aconference championship with the cardinals, but he had. This was his. Idon't know if this is first or second time coaching in he super bowl but yeah.That's. It was a complete different coach, new system, new players, asidefrom grunk that Tom Ready had to come to work with, but it was he surroundedby really great players too. I mean Yeah Lean Mike Evans, fucking GodwinFornet for ne a shout out to Fornett. Doing I don't know if you guys seen ontwitterd, he tweeted when he was a senior in high school. He tweeted can'twait till I play in the Super Bowl and then look at that. Now. Look at him nowstartt and he ad Yea Tata, rushing touchdown, so I mean shot out to himand he got cooked from the giant. We got cut from the Jag wars picked up bythe buks and he kind of had like an I down season regular season, really because he washe he didn't start as a starter. He was a. He was in the second slot forrunning back and then the first. The first ran running back, got her a fewtimes and Hou know he got his minutes and it showed because the first half ofthe season really wasn't really for Fornet, but he really picked up in thesecond half of the season and in the postseason, and you know he helped likeestablished ar running the running game for the bucks in his n Thi superbolematch, and it really helped because Tom Brader was able to get those good looksdon so drunk and his wire receivers to help him get down the field andespecially another player ont that I mentioned, who a lot of people youeither hate him or you low, Mantonio Brown. He has a ring now, oh, he doeshave a ring now I'll me ther. After all, he a lookin out the raiders and havingthat story like being in, like all the drama like off the field beingsuspending getting arrested to get, gets another shot with the boks and Imean paid off, he cut, he had a good, I'm pretty sure. I think I don't know fhow many times he caught, but you know he got. Sixteen yard past I rememberBron Brady and it was it was like I set up like a good first down, but it'samazing for Onton Brouh for everything's beent through to come outwith e ring. I feel like I don't know. I really hate when players have thosestories outside of the game, but I feel like we need players like Antonio Bronmand, he's really outspoken. We seen them on the barber shop on HBO, withLebron James, how ouspoken he was even talking shit about his old team, theteelers, but I feel thate. We need those characters, we need those storiesand and just not in any sport yeah. So that's that's kind of crazy to me. Hegot a ring. After all, he did to get out of the raiders out of the steelersand he was alf for a good about a year. Yeah SOM was crawing. That's why I meanthat was like time came out a retirement dud. He just said now: I'Mgonna GO B, get win a super bowl and he did it, but I kind of hope andsomething another thing too. How long o? You think you got you give Bradybecause speaking of Grunk, I think you should retire man. I feel like he's,not all the way there. I don't know if you people see his interviews. I don'tI don't know man, it's a lot of hits,...

...but I till I get brady like anotherthree years and probably another ring honestly yeah. I give me three TOR fouryears for brading at least the Rene I mean I don't know ye grunt didn'treally play that many snaps either he wasn't the number one tight end forthem, but it was usually bright who cot those hehad yeah like he had more snaps versus the packers. But I guess in thisMatchof Bruce Areans wanted I trustit more the Dua who has been like the mostubles consistently with each other. So I mean he went with them and nd werepaid off. You know to Touc sounds between Brady and GRUNP, and I meanGRANC had said that he's never going to play with any other quarterback thatisn't Tom Brady, so maybe Ho. Maybe he wait. He'll wait around until readyretires. Maybe because I mean he be Yeah Youre Right, he did come out ofretirement just to play with Tom Rady's on Rada. So I mean that says a lot.Aboutwho Brady is as a teammate and I as like a friend. You know they have agood connection, but I mean just to close out. I just Idon't know. What's next for my homes, just I mean my home he's not done he'llbe back to the super bowl because he's young o people son't forget, like he'sjust got into the Leagu Hou. Just and I mean you're, it's not like Heit's, notlike Brady just beat drew Breezer, Oh yeah, he jus, and I mean that's what props to him. HeHav to go through breeze, Rogers and Mahomes aget to the seven superborlring so ithink. That makes it super special, but for my homes, he'll beback the Chiefen o the best yeahfc they still. This see this team will belocked in sure they have a bunch of like salary cap issues that they'llprobably work into the hoffseason with contracts, but if they can keep thecore intact, I'm pretty sure they'll be back to superblwe. I mean I don't knowwhat happened. Wyhomes probably got a little star, Straih PLA, but that'swhat I was saying, but he's been on that stage before he just won the superbowl last year, agains a really good defensive team, too yeah. So I do. Idon't know why. Maybe it's just about a game. I guess I bu mean a lot ofmistakes. A lot of he got sacked multiple times, probably maybe it whasjuesnt Matte for time Ratin to win this one yeah, but just anything other thanthat I don't know, and then his brother, his brilling, is stot making fucking toJackson y homes. Just stop! Please Oo. That's all I'm asking you I'm tired ofseeing your shit on my tick Tog, be man like fuckings, but also the next, the next topic,another team who made history deitis. They became the first team from Mexicoto ever. Make the fannel of a Clubral Cup they just bee Onmatas, which Ithink is huge, because porrametos won the Copali wetoloes, which is the besthardest most important trophy. You can win on all connowader, which is SouthAmerica, North American ces have' been participating, but that's just like thethat's like the crown jewel. That's like the biggest tournament you can win.Indeed is nock. Come out. We had a fifty fourth minute penalty byGinyakwho the best foreign player to come into the League. In the last lightshit man, I give it like last fifteen years, yeah he's their game plan is pasttiing Yu and Imean it. Wereit works, it worked but O, but they got a stack team as well. Theythey've had the best they've had the morse stack team in the League in thelast, what ten years yeah and then they added on siles from Pumas, which is somethingwe talked about. Yeah Stack team gets more sacked every year.Yeah and I mean the score was one zero I felt at. It should have been at leasttwo. Maybe three zero they're doin that bon made us Goalin do fucking reflexesof Spiderman was out here. He t like e yeah like Yo her. Do it like two header.I clearly fo one for me, Gingyaki one from Consilat. I like thought they weregoing to be goals, and this do just fucking stretches out of nowhere andlike does block it- and I mean like that fucking he kept them in the game,but made us had that almost had that, like scare frommi tio had that scare.But U Ma also MOS core, like in the last few seconds of the game. Yeah wichsat to the Corner Cicke, but I mean other than that do now. Wett was kindof just chilling his goal, you ly, have much much work to be done. Yeah,...

...but that's something too. I want to say,like Davis is always getting made fun of, because there's a Kep, a Chico likethey're, always getting made fun of, because there people don't get say themlike a huge team, which is a medy Cook wit. A W Po must and Che us, but at thesame time like look at what they've accomplished in recent years, yeah theyhaven't won any international trophies, but look at that they're the first teamto make it to a final I mean I don't know if t ey're going to win thatthey're, probably going no most likely play ban Munich, which is the best teamthey if they coan, keep this like with SOM, like maybe a one score ofdifference. Like I mean that's ano yeah, you know, Isunit is Ber Munas they're,taking all their starters to the team. So yeah s mean I don't know, I thinkyeah. I don't know about winning the final, but reaching the final, likealso like you're telling me like a medygod couldn't reach the final, andthis a thing soway and s like that like where Che was they gonna, knock that onthe first round and then Amenica to had they've also got? I knock one on thefirst round, so they're doing what bigger teams couldn't accomplish andthat's that's. As a law I mean Yeah E, have a stack team but theyre there. Iwish like me as a cheas supporter Hfan. I would want she as to and invest the same way thatDatas does because I mean how else are you going to fucking compete? Everyother team is buying players and daas. Look it's paying off yeah they're,reaching new heights every season yeah. So they play that they'll play they'll,be participating in the final, which is this Thursday wa Al Waiting, obviouslythe winner of Byron and Alaalali, but obviously Birin favoris, so Wen thatone by not even like you co, you don't even have to watch the game. PABBY, nohe's going to win that Andif. I'M JEST SURPRISED! Even the commenseers onTellim Whon, thou, we're saying now we could know Fox ther were like now. Wecould just take the day off like they don't even have to watch this shit onAli who won, they won their Champions League and quotes. They won't like theWHO, the IUY. They wont like the African Champions, like basically, wethey play against like the Pharaoh Legan iino. No, that's not yeah teisprops of them congrats. The OTERAGIIN e final go lockInd. The final wever they play if they win it well, fuck I'll be damned, but Iill see we'll see en see that we'll see it on Thursday, but other big news to is Namar. Hesigned a contract extension for four years. He his contract was going to endin June of two thousand and twenty two, but now it's up until two thousand andtwenty six Damn Yep pg secured one of their best players for the long term,and I think that just messy was for sure leaving. This iseven more because I feel like messew. One of the big reasons messy would havestated is if they would have brougn name more to Barcelona and after I, youthink that name Eris, probably staying, because you think that PG convincehemthat they're going to heve a run and bring MES PD. I think that, and alsothat and Baber is probably going to end up staying, even though I'm a bay, heonly has eighteen month left on his contract and he hasn't signed a renewal.But naymor said that one of the reasons he renewed was because he hopes thatimbopis signd a new contract. So imagine that front three that frontthree wits a champase and Bupe. That's like that's like an ultimate team rig.That's FIFA Bo Pasa pace of users, N. ninety nine pace average fuck. I don'tknow this is just name Barwho at the time when he first time with PG signdthe biggest contract in history, and but I mean the terms weren't disclosed,but I'm pretty sure he's making fucking bank yeah he's making main therethere's. No there's no fucking yeah. You can't Demi. That shit I mean.Obviously we look at Mensy's contract was probably the biggest contract inpors history when they leaked it, a coupl, a Tso, that's pretty sure, NAMore. Probably to that Shit, they just don't want to say I mean you know. Idon't know, I mean messy. It's caude messy's had a lot of clauses so like heeven had a class for like a loyalty like just because he's Loke to the team.They paid them like millions, Wat, the I that's like crazy and even messy'scontract. Think about it. I mean it was six hundred seventy four million forfour years, that's more than Lebronze Brades, mahomes and trout combined,that's crazy, that's insane and that...

...contract too, which was leaked bynewspaper and Mondo and Barcelona, said theywere going tothey're going to sue them for leaking that information. I don't know why theydon't want to why SOCCR tumes don't want to like talkabout the contracts. I guess it's a privacy thing, but we look at NFL teamsand Theyr at NBA teams. They do they do give like they give details about the contractsyeah like Os last year, yeah the woman at half a billion yeah yeah. So I mean I don't know why they don'twant to say it. I guess it's just personallyssues. You know privacy stuff,but yeah. I guess if they t e they're suing them is for reason, but I mean Idon't know it's just a waste of time, an she's leaving either fucking way,but I mean too money wise and a lot of things with these big contracts is theamount of taxes you're going to be paying and chief of Laliga, which isthe league that Bartlona plays in. He said that that's something wrong!That's something! That's wrong with this Spanish government, where thetaxes are too high, that's going to help messy leave Porcelina becausecompared to like the taxes so say, if messy were to go to plane like sayItaly, the taxes will be half compared to what he pays now in Svain. So that'ssomething that also might want to have messy Leeave, because the amount ofmoney he's paying in Texas is yeah. I Wa huge and we saw like Ronaldo andmessy get what's it called they get caught up fortax evasion. Yeah, like arenolleme YEA Althou, had that big story where he wasgetting like sued for like tax evasion, yeah and like this, because they playnin Spain- and you know ever since he left buct to Italy. You know he none ofthats happened like brought up ravity anymore, so I mean yeah. It is why that happened, but I don't know we'llsee I mean I still think for sure messies leaving, I think yeah,especially if they win no trophies and they alread they're. Already like in aBada Financial Ituation, I mean the throw away the champions e they'replaying PSD. Do I don't know about don't know about getting pass M. Gon tabe first on exit honestly yeah ts notome, I don't know we'll see how thatthey play either next week is tet. Next week it's the February Sixteenh okayyeit's, like O yeah, two weeks out, that'll, be a fun game yeah, but I meanwe saw also. We gave a couple shoutouts last week ortwo weeks ago and for the the performance of US players yeah, butthen also I want to mention rolly quick, the transfor window close and we had a.We had a lot of movement with US national team players so reynolds hewent from New York, radibils Toroma, that'sreally big. ARIOLA ended up joining Moris to swansi seventeen year old,kate and Clark to laspig seventeen year old, just in Chet to Ba Munich and it'ssomething to I want to stand out. Justin Chay. He was part of that playerdevelopment program that also set Richars a center back to ver Munach. Hewas part of that program that helped send them over there practice for threeweeks and then, if bay munish like Hem, they get to keep them. So that'ssomething I feel like a lot of us. National team players and youth playersshould take advantage, go be part of that program. Go get tested out on bigteams, and you end up saying so: that's that's big yeah nd. I feel I feel likeBiron there. This, like one of the teams that has been keeping their eyesout on like young towny, young tellent and special in the United States. Youknow they're taking out of the conccate took Davies as well from Montreal andthey developentto a pretty raw player. So I don't know I've heard you blee,arguably what Hemas left back in the World May? Maybe I give him a few hatto Tog dop three for sure yeah. I just feel like you, OT, really hyped upafter that Shan music final hasn't really. You know made any oeo finmselfyeah, I n HEU can work. He can definitely become one of the top topleft backs in the world. I think so yeah you just got to stay healthy yeah,so we're going to switch back over here to the NBA, where we have the leak leats, becausenot official Butim, pretty sure ITA pretty sure going to happen. The AllStar Game March Sevenh in Atlanta, a...

...the alenta hawks arena voting, has already opened NBA releasedlike the first wave of voting ballots and we for the Western Conference. Wehave e the three leading front. Courts is Lebron James, jokitch and Kawai withto the two cards being steff, curry and Daungige, and those are all players wohaving crazy season so far. The Alli fee, like all those players, are in thetalks to be and NVP Ye. They have a Lebron Lead Voting Lebronan Katy, letthe let the voting for like both easer yeah for all of the players. Those arethe top two leading the folks, but then those are also players. WollLebron Lebron has spoken out as saying he doesn't want to be part of the THEU,also great yeah, because he says that the Lakers only had seventy one days torest until they had to start the season again yeah. He feels like it was athing where they should have cancelled it, just like they canceled the probollfor the NFL m, because especially just that small, that small break they hadand then also with all the covid cases that have been emerging, yeah KevinDuren, who just he dodn't even test o ees because o tracing I I don't know why this the nbas kindof I don't know they're hading. This sit kind of stupid, like you're. Ahealthy KD is sitting out for a week for no Ron heal because is racingbecause there's a Ta that he doesn't even have it. It's Tracy, like that'sfucking stupid, like come on, do like let him play him. He's Kati showed hisfrustration by saying free him because, like he's kind of bushes this, becausehe in the middle of the game that a been crazy game, but he was there forhalf of the game and H N, they hit him up telling them like Ey Katy needs toget off the court and it thisit stupid. You reay play two quarters. Differet,you sweating on the court playing close contact with a playeris like what youmight as well. Just let hem play the whole game already like there's. No, itdoesn't stupid the way just take them out halfway to the game, doesn't makeany sense, but speaking of the Eastern Conference, the votes for those.Obviously we have from first to three. We have the front court being KD,geonus and Jell and bead. The gars would be Braly beal and carry erming asit stands. I would be the starting get Braly bl out of Washington Dude. Hesaid he said Hes a min ou around theo say that without crying do it likeHelpo, tell me that t by telling me you don't want to ring Basca yeah like wha.Why stay there like what has ha front the front office given a Beul, so hecould stay with Washington. Nothing! There's no reason for mistake, becauseit's a conversation enterest to like there's not a lot of loyalty nowadaysin the NBA, so that can maybe be something he wants to pursue. I meanyeah if you're looking back, I believe tha, two thousand and nine thousand andten Joe or you remember what your tat CR was at is two thousand and nine step.Curry is the only player from that Draf at class, who has stayed with the sameteam? That's crazy, tthosandnd, nine! Yeah! That's and I mean yeah talk aboutloyalty, B ut. You can't compare him because curry has he's rich five finalsonsecutively one three of those bio has been with the Washington wizers and oneJack Shit. Nothing, but I feel like that also has to do with John Wallgetting injured when he was with the wizzers to, and I mean they brought inRussel Westbrok whool, its really much of a team player who, I personallythink he's really good. I think he's instabut as a team player he's not goodas a team player he's Goo for individual stets yeah, but I mean look.Why do you think use shits? Is that sout of there yeah? I mean they shouldparden hot too, but Hardo want to leave. Yeah Harda didn't want to stay yeah, soI mean I don't know we'll see if there's an Alar game, because evenplayers like Jenes Kaai, Leonard Daron Fox, they all said, there's no point inhaving an all star week. Yeah ion money talks, there's a lot of money involvedyeah and it would. It would be like a whole week off or the NBA, but the players competing in the Alsar gameor the best place. Yeah they would, it would just be a oneday thing. Usuallyit's a twoday thing where Saturday night, you have the the it's like theUS versus world game, and then you have...

...like h the Taco Bell, skills challengeand then the three point. You know three point don contests and all that,but it would just be a one one day thing where they just do the Skochallenges, probably earlier in the day and then yeah like they close it offwith the Allstar game. Obviously I would feel like that wouldbe done without fans. I don't see why they would alot offens into that, but I mean I don't know the NBA couldjust pull out some stupid shin. That depends in to get more money. I mean Idon't know if if Lebron is what, if Lebron is voicing that he doesn't wantan Alstar game everybody's going to pick you back on to that and saythey're going to say them hout. I, especially if other players that I justhave mentioned to of they're. Also speaking out, I mean yea. No, maybeowners should look at this, and, and but the good thing about this is thatif Ey, the players really don't want to play, they have the National BasketballPlayer association who's in the negotiations for the game, but they hadsaid yes already know had im now they had 't said yes, they're like they're debating it. So It's improgress but- and I believe it's Ondrig Dollawho 's a president of the national festvall par sociation, or no no CP,three B thre sixty three yeah yeah and I think audreyis the vice president,but yeah. The I'm pretty sure see like all these players are voicing theiropinion. Chris Paul who's representing them, and Chris Pallis going to beletting on that yeahe, like probably the majority of players, On't want toplay it, and then I don't know, but they'll still probably keep the boatsup just be like similar to how the NFL they had their pobo votes, and that'sjust like, as a nod for players doing good this season yeah as far as playingthe game. I don't know that's still up in here, we'll see of fens of happening,though yeah I kind of want to see it. You know, last year's was pretty fun.The way they set up yeah it was. The game was fucking intent for the firsttime like that. I can remember, but I mean, if players I want to play, youknow I respect that Wen, the middle fucking pandemic yeah and they had a helike the like he's, like you said, the Lakers had e short offseason. I mean Iguess it could work out at they don't play it. on't mean I'm not complainingeither way the season still being played. So me yeah as long as it's nothol, they could give them a break. I don't mind, take a week off, butthey're not going to do that. They probably wont Theyll, probably justcranked up the fucking schedule, yeah because they tryng to get the ShitDowne before Tokyo and had he ta to get to the finals and Tokyo and Onympics,and all that so I mean I don't know we'll see how they try to squeeze theschedule and already short in season. Seveny two games- yeah, I don't know we'll see, but that's it for this week- make surethe like share subscribe. O we'll see you guys next time.

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