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Episode 19 · 7 months ago

Goat Talk Podcast 019 | Canelo vs Yildirim, Teofimo Lopez, Triller, Zlatan Ibrahimović, Lebron James

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In episode 019 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss the knockout of Canelo Alvarez over Avni Yildirim on DAZN for the WBC and WBA Super Middleweight titles, Teofimo Lopez fighting on Triller against George Kambosos, and Zlatan Ibrahimović telling Lebron James to not mix politics and sports.
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Welcome back everybody: This is episode.Nineteen of goat talk, Onyer Hostalanzo, and we just had the number one poundfulpound fight on the world defend his title. Yeah. Can I litle over us withthe third round TKO win in Miami today I mean pretty not ashocking result, but I mean the way it ended up was kind of. I told you oreveryone I feel like everybody. Well, I mean everybody who really knew whoYodram was knew. This is going to happen and I feel like people are, I feel,like people are mad at for the wrong reasons. I feel a lot of people arelike blaming Canello for this. Now. Why is he fighting this trash fighter whenall the blame should be on the WBC? It was a mandatory that all the fucker howthe fuck is a fighter who's been inactor for two years and then lost andhis two fights where he stepped up in competition be rank number one in theWC and become a manatory for that for Teno from a for a Canela, yeah yeah. SoI feel like all the Blan should be on modesis who Ey mind. who was thepresident for the DBC, and I mean Canala? He just he just took herbusiness. I feel like he could have stopped it. I think, evenin the first round, because they never really set the pace in the first round.It looked kind of slow yeah and then they kind of turned it up in the secondround and then third round we had that knockdown, which was to me kind of aflashknockdown. But then it turns out that he was actually really hurtbecause when he came back to the corner, his coach, Jo Das, told him like you.If you don't show me anything in the fourth round, I'm GNA call it off, butthen it turns out that the referee stopped it, which I think jol deerz. Ithink he did a really good job. I feel like yldren was taking a lot ofpunishment. He wasn't hitting back at all and I did think overall other thanthe game plan. I think Yodren was just in there. Just take hits yeah, knowyeah, then Canell also didn't feel that Yidrom was much of a threat. He had hisguard down most of the match, and I mentioned to you, I'm like he's noteven trying to like defend. He didn't have hady like hands up to defendhimself like he was just taking. Jabs and Yude was just kind of just eatingthem. You know he was just getting. He was taking the hits, and I mean he wasdoing really good body shots and...

...uppercuts. I feel like that was themain thing that Canela was focusing on, for this fight were as to say that youdrum WASL supposely. He was suposed to be putting press on Canello that he wasgoing to make him fight on his back heel, but I saw none of that at all,like he was a hitting back like he dew some jazz, but it was nothing I meanthey were both fighting Orthodox, so I feel like it was kind of easy forCanello since never had polem with the Orde Orthodox fighter, but it justseemed like and he's night no yeah. I mean it wasn't easy. No, like you saidI could have ended earlier. I remember like in one moment in the second round,where you'll druwm, through a punch and kind of Lo like step back. He likedodged it and he counterd with the right one and that's when you were like.Oh, he took a good hit and yeah I mean I thought he was. That was going to bea knockdown for you, Jamika Heno, dit, well, Oy. He took it, but I mean thatthat third round punch, I think, that's the where he got in the knockdownreally kind of Dae them a bit. But I think the main thing too is thatGerodias, who I really appreciate as a coach, hes coach fighters that I'vereally liked watching like Omarphy, gro, abner, Marris and Timothy Bradley. Idon't know what they worked on for training camp was it maybe they had agame plan and then Yojam once he felt Canela's power. He didn't want to gothrough it that at all, because he himself has always been a pressurefighter. He's got a knockdowns in the first second round and his past fights,but even from the beginning from the opening bell, he put no Pressr onCanello at all, and it was just it was an easy night. That's just sums it outright. There yeah wasn't a shocker that canola one was expected. Everybody had thisKANOFTA Winnin be at the first rond third ream, but for sure it wasn'tgoing to go to twelve rounds. We both predicted that that'd probably be anearly round finish, and I mean that's: That's how it ended, and I mean thewhole thing is to like people got to know too that I've talked about. Ithink, the last time we w e when they had an Nouce, a fight that, like Canela,wasn't even supposed to Findt in February, so I feel like we should justtake this fight as a stay busy fight for his upcoming bow against billy, JoeSaunders in May. So I feel like we shouldn't be complaining, because Imean at least he's staying active, a...

...lot of really big champions. These daysthey only fight two to one time a year. So as long as we see Kanello more thantwo times a year, I'm all for it and especially if it's a mandatory to keephis belt to become the only fighter to ever, unify all four belts in thehundred and sixty eight pound division. I feel like we should all befor it like.If there's a someone to blame, like I said it's, the WBC and Imean Canello,he also made history he's the third Mexican with most wins and worldchampionship, fights only behind legendary fighter Phinitolopiz and wholise Sech Avit. So it's something that he keeps on doing every fight. Is thathe's reaching new goals and it's something that we should be. I feellike supporting, and I mean Yo Drum Lik how much he made. He made two point:five million to five for three rounds. That's crazy! I mean two point: fivemillion for just being a plunching back for Kinelo I mean I would take the samemoney too but, like you said, he's like Ting of chaseseeing, those that topMexican spot for fighters. They asked Thom postmatch like how is how is itlike comparing him to like who oseys a Chil? Is You know it's all those greatMexican boxers, and he said Li e? Oh I'm just I'm trying to create my ownhistory in my own unique way like respect to those boxers. He likeadmires them, they're his idols but like he wants to do his own thing, he'snot necessarily chasing them in a sense, but it's funny too, because even duringthis past week in an interview for Espnd, they asked thim. If you would tobe since our CHOB was in a fight when they were both in their prime and hesaid he would have beat him so hat's kind of crazy. Now that he kind ofchangees up a bit, I feel like he kind of like thought about it, like allpeople are going to think I'm like being hellicocky or like over confident.But I don't know I mean that woull be a great fight. I mean they never believe.I feel like both of their primes were at two different way classes. So Idon't know how that fight would have turned out, but e Shaulot to Canelloshe's reaching new heights. Yeah E is, I would probably have said the same justbecause for confidence wise, you know believe ing yourself, no matter what soI mean I fin would have said the same...

...thing an but fuck cavas. He was likeeighty nine ad, no until he finally lost, but I don't know, that's a whole.It was a diffent. It was a different time period. Yeah Mwe'll, see him fight in May, an seehow that goes. Hopefully another kind of the wine in the Fin, the books forhim. I'm moving on to another boxer. We had to emalopus yeah so because hewasn't able to reach an agreement with this promoter top rank to defend hisIBF title against a mandatory and so ended up going a purst bid which crazy enough, the winner of the Persit,was triller. For those who don't know triller they're, not really in theboxing scene. They just had that pay per view with Mike Tyson and Roy joins junior and they won the PirstBot. They bid six million dollars, which sixty five percent of that bit isgoing to go to to female, which is approome about four million, with topbrank is going to take twenty percent, which is about seven hundredeightythousand and that's crazy to think to because top brank, which istill females promoter, had only offered him the minimum one point two millionand till femal got like pissed. He said that there's no way I just became oneof the top figters in the world after being a Lomanchenkl and Youon only wantto offer me the minimum. So that's the whole reason why the whole thing whenthe person did was because to femal felt disrespected by the way that BobArom his own promoter presesed himself with that offer, and he just wante toexplore the open market. And the crazy thing, too, is that this fight isprobably going to land in April on the same card as Jake, Paul and Ben Aspin,which I think is the disrespect to the sport. But I don't know put it how yousee it tarler put up the money and that's where the fights going to landno yeah, I mean that's on top rank. How are you going to disrespect the guy whojust beat Lomoncenco for the boat? You can offer m a minimum like he has everyright to be paid, and I mean yeah, you might say always on triller and shit.Like ore, celebrity fights you exhibition matches but M, not boxes. Ot.MEA is not boxing, but it's also like you're not going to take a patcut offfrom your promoter. WH. You can chaste...

...the back to because you know you knowhow much you're worth you know your status as a boxer, and I mean why wouldyou be lowball like that and that's something to where top rank has thatnotoriety for player for boxers, leaving so, for example, fod meeweather when he was still pretty boy floyd? He bought out of his top rankcontract for seven hundred fifty Thousan dollars and then became abillionaire same thing, Oscar de Lajoya. He was promoted early on by top brank.He ended up, leaving again became a millionaire started his own thing withgolden boy and that's something I feel like tol femal started to notice. Onceyou start reaching a certain level, it turns into a business for the promoteryou're not seen as that prize fighter. You're Seeng, as just a business figure,basically they're just going to make money off of you if they know you'regoing to be bringing them. The numbers you're beating top rank guys they'regoing to try to get more money off of you and it's somebody like Bob Arranwho's been in the game longer than anybody ever has he's been here sincefucking Mohammedale, he promoteed Mohammedali, he pahomit, he promoted Mani, Packyo, he promotedfucking, Flor may weather he's promoted all the big names, but I feel like whenit comes to fighters like these like to Fema, who are young and up and coming,I feel like he starts to lose track of what they originally planned. Maybe hehad told Tyou fel when he first timed him, I'm Gonta, be I'm Gointa make youthe biggest name in boxing, because I feel like to female. I think he's oneof the main fighters other than like Virgal or tes to become the future ofboxing and to offer only the minimum, even though I know, maybe because ofcovid or Tiket Salls, or maybe because the money they've been losing in recentmonths and over the past year. Maybe that's one of the reasons but come on.You got to do something a little a little bit more than just the bareminimum, no yeah you'R, most important fighter to yeah other than TerenceCrawford, no yeah, no yeah. You Ha Youre right, an every aspect of that,but this could probably be like a eye opener for two of female to startbuilding his brand, like the same way that may weather was able to build hiscareer and business as a boxer. One sleeving top brank same thing withelsfotee when he created a golden boy,...

...maybe to a female, goes a similar routeand buys his way out of top Ragk, because he knows that he's gin he'smore valuable and he can, you know, make a an actual name for himself aswell as a business. But I feel like I don't I mean I don't think that's goingto happen. I think he's going to stay with top ring, but t I feel like this.Just it was an eye opener. I don't think he's going to end up leaving, Ifeel like just after this, especially since Bob Barn has said there was goingto be no more fights in a actual like bubble. He was GOIN, try to stagefights where there was going to be a fan to be able to go to the fights, butI don't know I mean it's crazy to me just the fact that Shiller won thePersoni thath and they bid way more than anybody else matchroom with eddingher. They were the person who came in second and then Tolp, brank, hime andthird. I just want to see how they end up doing it. If it turns out to be onthe JA, pal fight or Soi hope, not yeah, I mean, I hope not to or what musicalacts are going to have. We just had fucking J Bovin same with CanelloCanello, so probably something similar to that and we'll see where that goes.But I mean good thing for Jiofema, though he's making thi he's Goingno behis highest purse ever of his career and he's coming off, also the biggestone of his career to so we're going to see it's just another manatory another.I think he's going to be easy Wen to is finding Cambosols, and I don't knowhopefully after this he wl see him fight another belt order, maybe likeDevin, Hanney or Jevanta Davis, yeah, we'll see how it plays out in April,hopefully for Jiffy Malopez moving on to a different sport or sport, because it was to a superstarfrom different sports. Some controversy soccer player slept on. They asked themabout Lebron James and his like involvement, political views, and thisis what Slaton said he said. Lebron James is phenomenal a what he does, butI don't like it when people with some kind of status and they do politics atthe same time. As what they're doing I mean do what you're good at basicallysaying, stick to your sport and don't get involved into politics. We hadLebron react yesterday, post game. He...

...said: There's no way. I would ever juststick to sports, because I understand this platform and I' powerful my voices.What do you think whot do you think is in the wrong here or like whoseperspective is right? It's Nottimes, Ere Lebron, and I think it comes backto the O. First of I think Slatton is wrong in many reasons. It kind of goesback to the time where Laura Angram told Lebron James a shut up in dribleabout political things, yeah and I feel like it just goes back to that. I feellike sometimes athletes are viewed in a waywhere they can only talk about their sport, or they can only talk basketball and promote basketball,but I feel like athletes when they have that type of platform. They should beable to promote things that are beneficial to the rest of the community,because it's not just basketball, think about it, Lebron James. He does a lot.He has his own foundation, the Lebron James Family Foundation, which is abased in Akron. He does charity. He's worked with the boys and girls. Cub ofAmerica. He's worked with Children's Defense Fund. He's had a I promiseschool, he has a fucking school that gives scholarships to kids yeah a lotof kids from Akron and that can't afford college and he's worked withalso he's Worke, with the University of Akron to to gives collships to kids togo to be able to go to college, not even kids, but fucking yeah in ageryeah to go to kid. So it's not like it's also not like saying like Lebron,has never done anything outside of basketball too. He has like he's ontremendously he's done. A Lot. He' he's donated two point: five million to theSmithsonian, the National Museum. So he's jus been a lot mess. I feel likeslap tines in the run. Well, yeah I mean I guess it just comesfrom the different backgrounds we had probably slat dine. You know where theycome from. The European might sat where it's kind of like. Since the way it's like things are morestrict over there in the sense that a lot of the countries are more strictout like what people can speak about the government, what they can't- and Ifeel like- maybe he kind of grew into that were, like you, kind of just hushabout what polisers going and just stick to your sports. But in the samething too, is like Swedin, so slaton...

Abrahim O, which is from sweetern. Yes,I don't feel like Sweden has never had the same poems that America has,especially in terms of like social justice and stuff, like that, no I meannoh, yeah, you're right and I mean Lebron growing in a black community andobviously and N Plang in basically Ni, like mostly black athletes, becausethat's what basketball is they're sticking Oug for obviously ebiggest one was black lives matter movement, and then we also had the itwas for a while. They were kind of helping the WNBA fortheir equal pay,but the main reason slet. That was saying that was because of the blackliyes matter and how Lebron has been like an advocate against trump andagainst, like the Republicans and all that. But I mean it's like you said, likeLebron has a connection to the communities, and I mean, with being thebiggest NBA star, most goully known the last like decades yeah, you have aplatform that many people can look up to you and et Kip people. Look up toLebron and whenthey, see like with a simple post e Broncun post abouttlacklives matter and everybody's going to be on that, and I mean like it'sjust using your platform for yeah for good you not if it's politics, good orbad like if there's never like you can ever have so, there's always going tobe an opinion about politics, and I mean yeah. You could just say shit upan drigble, but I mean hat politics work their way somehow into sports, andyou got the National Nanasonal andtem I mean like if you don't want sports andpolitics in our time I mean why integrate something. Something likethat. I feel like the only reason where politics shouldn't and filtrate sportsor sort of say when players affect political things into the game eausewhen they decide to set out sort of like Kaire Irving, like as long as you're, not sitting outgames for not dumb reasons but like just for likesocial movements. I feel like that's...

...where I'm kind of like, if you'r on thesubject because think about it, you getting paid millions of dollars likethere's millions of people out there who want to be in the position you are,and I feel like sitting ot a game doesn't really do anything. No Yeah.It's like wharjust sitting out of a game for like an hour, make thepresident change his mind on maybe something he did or like cause government action thatdoesn't really do anything. That's where I feel like draw the lines andI'm not trying to say, like even, for example, again carry irving who has haddifferent. I want it's not like problems with likehis mentality. wher he's dealt with stuff like anxiety and stuff, like that.I'm not saying with that. I'm saying with like other issues where he justdecides just to sit out because of something that happened outside in thecommunity in politics. I feel like that. Shouldn't happen, like you shouldn't,set out a game yeah. No, I mean you shouldn't. If you want to try to likeadvocate for a message that you're trying to you know get across to yournation. I mean it should be like through, like as a whole as a wholeorganization, not just a team, but also the NBA as league. That's what you allget together and like make a message. They have like the theyhad that movement going online. You know where they're doing the blacklives matter and then H, every player was kind of like they showed their. They sow like theyr whats. It calledtheir support where they w up the Dang on the backthe yeah, the Jersey there,like that, like see you could play all these players. Majority then had thatlittle slow, gans o little things for the movement on the back of the Jerseyand they played and that I feel like and it was in the playoff and it was inthe playef. So I feel like that, pushes a bigger a message to everybody outthere, instead of just sitting out yeah, because I mean, if you're sitting out,then it doesn't, I feel like it, doesn't really attract any attention ina way because it's just going to say all that they say due to of what's going on, but I feel like now.You should use that you R, you should use that you're on TV, that you'reunder the spotlight to advocate what...

...you want and instead of like justsitting out, was kind of. If you're sitting out, I feel like you're justbeing quiet because you're not using your platform there and I mean thinkabout his slap ton. Dibrahimmwhich only lasted about what two years in Americawhen he played for and he lived, do he lived in fucking La as a millionaire asa soccer star as t e biggest name and all of maless. So I feel like he didn'tget to see any of that he didn't get to see any bad of whatLebroni sein his like his entire life yeah in America, Yeah d. Then we hadbaron Davis earlier today. He sets a Slat on saying, slat Don stay,you west side of La Galixys, Lik anyway, which I mean I don't know what tha todo with anything and he said: EON, Ros and you're dumb as hell. Take thatstolen Zo Ho Lick and give it back to Sandler. Now let the king speak, I meanit was kind of a week comeback. I mean that could have done better. I mean itwas more like a laughing thing yeah, but I mean you could see how there'sother NBA form NBA and former NBA players who re kind of backing up withwhat tle broan soccer players to. I een were commenting like on beachereportpost about the what comments Thatit's, not thatmade, but I meanslakon, has always been known se just to say like stupid to like he says,random shit. I E N. I feel like the only thing that sleftan has ever said,that when against something was when he said that club soccer and America istoo expensive, I feel like that's a hundred percent srue. I feel likethat's. The only thing slapin has ever opened his mouth and said somethingfucking positive or like that was true, but hey I mean slat don he's entitledto his own opinion, Weou're, not supposed to say it's true or falseer.This is just our opinion. You had Toen, you guys can fucking say the same shitabout us about t we're saying right now, but hisis. Just our opinion I feel likeSlapton was just in the wrong: no yeah, that's all yeah! It's our opinion. Hehas his. We just don't agree with it, so I meanwe're not going at him. We're going that maybe his opinions, you know, he'sstill incredible player. Nobody takes it away from him, but yeah this ten definitely ditur somecontroversy in the world of sports and...

...et Shok up a lot, because I mean Sakanis a big name. Even though he's never won a champions Ev, he played for E.Really big clubs and you're a another shot, Ban, Davi Shu, says actually toshit, but I mean it's Lebron James. What do you expect all right? So that'sall the time we got for this week makes you to light. Share SI cribing, we'llsee Y ALL NEXT TIME.

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