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Episode 29 · 1 year ago

Goat Talk Podcast 029 | Concacaf Nations League Final, USMNT, Mexico, Pulisic, Guardado

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In episode 029 of Goat Talk, Alonso Frias and Fabian Magaña discuss the Concacaf Nations League Final where the US Mens National Soccer Team defeated Mexico 3-2.
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Welcome back everyone. This episode twenty nine of Goat Talk. I'm Rost Lonzo, and we just had a pretty big game in the CONKA Colf. We had Mexico lose three to two in the finals the CONCACAF Nation's league. How do you feel do? I'm pissed, Bro I mean, you probably know this by everybody listening. Dude, I'm not gonna do and I you saw me to. You told me to relax, to say this shit with calm. You know what, I'm gonna keep my cool because I don't give a fuck no more. But you know, I just gotta say one thing. Fuck Chaca Rodriguez. Dude, I fucking I always say it, bro Whenever we go over the callups for the Mexico Games. Dude, Chacol Rodriguez is always been called up and he's gets US starting right back position. Dude, I don't know what that that season m dude, I don't know why the fuck he still gets called Ug Mexico takes the lead to one with the goal from Digo. Line is due. Not even two minutes passed by check out. Instead of cleaning the ball, tries to control it. Dude, he kicks it, he basically rolls into the corner and gives them a corner cake and I'm like, brother, they're gonna score this do because they had so many chances. USA had to score off corner kicks because, for some reason,...

...do they were winning all the setting pieces, and I'm like, dude, this is really gonna tie it, and they surely did. To to with Western, mckinney got the header off, but I mean that's like what it costs him the game. And I'm looking on twitter and everybody saying that that this game from never gone over to extra time, that that mistake by Chaco was one of the Shit. was like what caused this and that's basically what started it. And then what? You go into extra time, you have a penalty that should have never been called. People are saying it is, but I don't see where the foul is. As a defender, I saw that Shit will taken cleanly. I'm not saying biasle. He took the ball cleanly, bro He got to the ball. Yeah, he hit Pollo Stish, but he's going towards the ball, he's not going at the player, Dude. And then all man yeah, okay, we got a penalty off a handball. Ye, congrats. No, yeah, what a the other fucking misses it. On the second Strin qb who, for for a fact, has not played a single game with his club this whole season. And I mean like on the biggest stage you can be doing that shit, Bro. Yeah, I mean I feel like that was a really big turning...

...point that nobody expected. was when Zac Stephen Got Injured and Horvath had to commit. I is, honestly, I think I said in the last podcast or two pod guys to go where I feel like they could compete for the first like starting position on the US men's national team. I can see Horvat starting over Zac Stephen in the Gold Cup if they were both going. But yeah, I feel like it was just a lot of mistakes on both teams. I feel like post sic especially. I feel like he didn't really show up as much he was supposed to, but then he scored the penalty. That just decided at all that. It was a perfectly taken into the top right corner. I feel like he he was a man to go for the penalty and I feel like one of the was also, I said it right before they chose somebody to take I said, or that low what I should be the ones to take it. He had that one against think was fun of mine. I Gold Cup, when it was like the whole robbery situation where you find yeah, we fell on the ball with like his hand. Yeah, and I feel like I was really like high tense match, match, like for sure penalty g that he needed a scores for them to go into extra time. So I feel like Wardello has made important penalties in the...

...past, but I don't know, I feel like it wasn't. I'm not no, because we're not in that situation at the time, but I mean I get more props to horrorth and what ill was missing, because that was a really good save. I feel like they Katito Courna. I don't know, especially since he didn't play any minutes in the Games prior to this. One of the reason why that that Martino took him out so early and because, I mean, he got that goal early on. We're Mackenzie messed up and just gave them the ball and I was working because that that high press that the the front three were doing. It kept for seeing like mistakes from the defense, and I feel like that's where Greg Bill Halter also had struggles. I feel like he should have picked that up in the game against on Dudas, where I feel like playing out from the back it doesn't work out for the US men's national not with it, not with like the with the high pressing team. No, and that with the high pressing team like that that Martino has, especially with quick players on each wing, with Antuna and Takatito. But I don't know, I feel like Bo hats could have changed things around a little bit quicker. I'm surprised Mussa didn't get any minutes.

I'll that was the thing that I was most surprised with, Timothy Way also going in pretty late into the game. Tyler Adams also really late into the game. So I just feel like it was a lot of tactical decisions by better halter that ended up working in favor of him, whether he liked it or not. And especially, I think one of the biggest mistakes to is Dr Martino having chokie played nine. Uh Huh, after saying that, after saying that, because I guess reporter asked them, Oh, why you guys don't have a nine, and then that I said, oh, that's disrespectful we have Henry Martin and Polly, though seas not. Then, literally like a couple days later, you don't start either of them and then you put choking a position he's played before. WOULDNA poly end with Mexico. But it is not that it's not the best position for him, especially with teams with really tall center backs like Brooks and ream that US missation team as h even though they were getting beat with pace every single time. But just I don't know, having your back turns to the goal. Handy Martin did it somewhat good, but also I don't know. Henry Martin. He plays really good...

...with the Medica. He's one of the players. Why I said he should have started at nine before this whole situation happened, but I don't know. After seeing him play in these two games, I don't really think he should be there and I think for the Gold Cup it should be fun as mody and Chicharito definitely bully, though I don't know why the fuck is called up the US. So they call him up just a warm up the bench. Bro But another thing I didn't like. The was set at the beginning was a defense. I thought I my Tino had put on the field. We had a guy, all the left back or Artiaga, who I mean, yeah, he had a bad game. That's what Sta Rica but I mean, I feel like that should be your definitive. I feel like it wasn't bad. It just wasn't or was like it wasn't like amazing. Yeah, it wasn't like what you would expect his functionality to be against a team like most I anka, with the players that post that, it goes that Aka had on that side of the field. HMM, and then obviously already said Chaka. I mean I would have wanted it, how to settle over Chaka. I these have settled more experience and he doesn't really get it himself into problems. I feel like he's learned that from the mistakes, like when he had that one error against a medica on the final with theigred's where he didn't...

...clear it out, kind of similar to Chaka, but I mean he loses it there and it commits a penalty and I mean I feel, like I said, over time has kind of learned that like not to really play in the back, and I mean that's something Chuk I needs to like realize that in that those types of scenarios, especially when they're pressing high. Don't try to control it, especially if you could, if you have enough space, at least just boot it out like the that's so you should be doing instead. But I mean, like you said, the the whole nine thing, like exactly who? I don't know why she chattito, who was the leading goal scorer in the MLS, is not being called up for you know, it's these are official matches, they count, they're not. I'm Stoso, see if I'm he stills. Okay, yeah, maybe he wants to try out Martin and Buli, though, but I mean of a game of like a tournament of this caliber, and like what it the importance that it has. Yet, even though it's like the first time that CONC CONKA COP does this, like you should still put out all your cars on the table. And if that means that Chetito had a bad season, I say, okay,...

...well, we're basic off this season and he's probably the best striker right now Mexican striker besides Roberkey Menis, who obviously isn't can't play, because loundry, and the thing is too I feel like that the Martino take. I feel like with his type of experience, having coached teams and even nationals. He's coached by a why? He coach Argentina and he's coach, obviously, Barcelona. The way he waits to make subs that he waited on, he waited in stop. He waited until the seventy eight minute to take out Koilanduna for Davio Linus. One DOUNA wasn't really having a really good game. He was winning balls sometimes, but it wasn't just I don't know, it just likes the transitions weren't there and dy linus ended up scoring right away after he went in. He just changed the pace of the game. He I think he scored like a minute after he went in, and so those those things you gotta like as a head coach of a national team, as important at next coool is and looking withck cough and how crucial these Games are, you, I feel like you gotta have better conversations with your staff and when sub need to be made. Yeah, and I mean the ago line is,...

...like you said, this is chucky was playing nine. They will line should have start. We're looking at in the future when he has a natural man like Cheltrone Orgy Menes putting Ruki either right wing or left wing, and Takatito, you know, on on one side to I still I don't know. I'm still rather put the AGO liness as a second option, if they're if he wants to make a sup on the wings, and then maybe on Luna as a third choice. I don't know. I feel like he had that can kick offs in two thousand and nineteen. I feel like that was the best version we could see of him, but also like it was his first time. So maybe, you know, he was playing extra hard, but I don't know. These past few I me Stoleso's like he hasn't looked the same like as he did since then, and I like I mean, I don't know if you put some because of his speed, because I mean it works, but when it comes to one on one, knows the he like, he can't really dribble passive defender Or, you know, shake somebody as the same as lightness who was a little bit more, more quicker and may be able to balance through situations where people are probably putting fedia. But I...

...mean that's just my opinion on, you know, going forward after this match, and I feel like this game really the I mean the rivalry never ended, but I feel like this just added a lot more fire to that rivalry that Mexico and us a should have. I feel like every game, every time they played to this is how the game should be played. It was high intensity from the first minute. We had that goal early on. I feel like that also set the temple really well. But these are games are supposed to be played this. I feel like with the amount of talent that each team have, the youth that each team has, they should be able to play intense every minute of the game, and I feel like this come have nations league finals going to really set up a really important match. I think they're going to have another really good game in the Gold Cups. I think both teams are going to advance, be it maybe semi finals or finals, and that upcoming tournament that starts pretty soon. I don't wait to gotta wait a whole last month, you know, here all these USA fans on social media talking all that Shit Doe, and I feel like it's really good for the US and naturally because that, I feel like they needed this win, like they really needed this one, especially with all the talk of their...

...all their players who had Christian polley shy, their captain, who just won the Champions League, Zach Stephen won the premier league. Just all these championships. Tim Way, I will live, but it's just a lot of stuff going on with the US. Means I haven't seem like mainstream media where they needed a win like this. Yeah, and I mean that, instead of, you know, trying to find like still position, I feel like at this point of his tenure at Mexico, he should already have an idea of okay, this is a this is what I'm going to call up consistently. I'm going to stick to this starting lineup moving forward, going into the qualifiers. Cookedball at all. I'm going into World Cup like I'm like, just stay with like what you have brought and if that, if I don't know if he's still wanted, like you know, using chocolate is still test it out. But I mean I don't see him having a I don't know why he should even have a position in this shit like he shouldn't be being called up like that. I will take some setto. I'll take freaking if you want to pay a yellow right, do put freaking our Theatra. If you don't want to start a settle. But Dude, but Chaco should not have...

...a freaking starting spot, let alone a roster spot. And I feel like ever since, like UN was at his peak, we haven't really had a set right back or boat like you love to but poll it now, but it like I was a little bit before, I think, because after the zero match against she la us on bowling and La started like not getting caught up. But ever since, like like you, and we haven't had that like like every single game, every single call up, he's the right the right bag. Yeah, and I feel like that's where he's struggling most to find, is a right back. But I mean some cello has shown that he can play right backgain. I mean, if you're still struggling, like just stick with some cello. Then if you're going to have more on the back, I mean, I guess out off is your center back. It looks like that's, you know, the way that he's going with, is going out all in center back or mean who? I mean, he didn't. He had an alright game. It wasn't bad, but also wasn't great. Moreno, and out OFFA were the ones most of the time getting beyond those set pieces that go with Westn mckinney. I gotta the completely left mckinney wide open to hop over him and just head of that into the post.

And the thing is too, like the three people who scored for the US mean national team were like the three people who are supposed to like not carry but like are supposed to be that next generation of like phenomena of US means nationals player. It was Urana, postic and Western mckinney who scored, who all play on really top teams in Europe. So that was that's also another thing to point out is just the people who should show up for the USMN national team showed up. And for Mexico, I don't know, I feel like certain players in the defense or and people in the mid I mean Charlie, had a good game, yeah, but surprisingly, but I don't know, just certain situations in the game where I feel like Charlie was one of those people who were sacrificed to bring in another midfielder. HMM, I don't know. I feel like they gotta work on them, because those two goals, besides the postage penalty, the two goals came off set pieces, their corner kicks. Um Your RENA's go. I mean it came off a Corner Ka. Yeah, I hit the post, but and he deflected and kick the back game. But I mean they came off corner gas. And I mean in the Post Game Conference that the Martino said that he's happy with how...

...he left the group and he feels like there's a lot they can give still moving forward. Hopefully not Chocko. I don't want to see him. I don't want to do it. I don't want see him for the couple Bra but I feel like they should keep that line at three that they played against Ghost Ricafe, that she is especially with the teams that they're playing in the gold cub. If they if they don't win, if they don't win, the Gold Cup grew. So I'm telling this right now. I'm not going to Mexico for I'm not going to EXCO Games for the next year, bright for a whole years ago. I'M gonna go to Mexico game. I don't care if they play us a here, I'm not going. You'll smell that. Yeah, like no bookmark that Shit. Save it time, stemp that I'm not going to go. Yeah, but I mean even more of that. To another quote. From the Post Game Conference. He said that we're are brotherhood and they have each other's back, and I feel like they can see that, especially after he saved that penalty. Seemed how they were all like united as a group. All of the goals they scored they celebrated as a team. So I feel like even moving forward. Also, Tyler Adams,...

...he was telling Gio Rena after the game to his like the first of many in terms of trophies for for the US national team. So this is just a lot of like just work in progress that they need to reach that level of respect that they've lost in recent years in the conquer cock. I mean, I don't know. Hot Chakn not done that, we wouldn't even be here complaining about this game, about Mexico, you know, losing, but I mean I don't know that. I guess you know what you're doing, but I don't know what the fuck you see in him. So I don't know, just moving forward. Mexico's next game is against on Dudas, with a friendly, a friendly on the elevens. Yeah, so hopefully that'sing to be probably is Huh? I think it's. I think it's going to call up another list and then that's going to because US basically a friendly for the Gold Cup to want start. The Chuck is going to be on that list, I mean maybe. And then for the US men's national seem they're going to play goose drik on the night. So they're okay the O. They're ready. They're preparing themselves for that Conqua cough type tournament, you know.

Yeah, they're just matchings in the same zone. So we'll see how those teams go. But I was a really good game. I was satisfied in the terms of Gonka cough, not level, because I feel like a both teams needed to work on a lot, I feel like, just transition wise, knowing when a pressure, knowing when to give out the ball. I feel like it's just really poor on both teams. But the intensity is what I like. Yeah, this game wasn't really about who played better. It's about who capitalize on the stays. And I mean, and that's usually what soccer is, it's whoever makes the less mistakes is one who comes along the Chaco, one of the though not not naming names, kind of have. But that's all the time we got for this week. Make sure to like, share and subscribe and we'll see all next time.

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